S&S 106 BB kit
#11
Already have a PC5 and Basanni 2-1.
Isn't the headwork based around the size of the engine so I would have to do it again when I went from 96" to 106"?
I'm no expert so that's why I was asking.
Isn't the headwork based around the size of the engine so I would have to do it again when I went from 96" to 106"?
I'm no expert so that's why I was asking.
Put the $$$ into the heads and a cam upgrade. Nice butt dyno feel.
Save UP for BB kit later.
You can do in steps if $$ tight.
#1... buy TTS
#2 buy cams like George (SEDeluxe) says.
#3 get heads ported
#4 exhaust
#5 BB Kit.
You can build one thing on to another as you go if you use a good plan that looks towards the future. Only thing will be the Tuner won't, by itself, show any riding improvements, but MUST be the base for the rest of your upgrades. If you are doing your own labor... the only thing will be buying gaskets as you progress.
Save UP for BB kit later.
You can do in steps if $$ tight.
#1... buy TTS
#2 buy cams like George (SEDeluxe) says.
#3 get heads ported
#4 exhaust
#5 BB Kit.
You can build one thing on to another as you go if you use a good plan that looks towards the future. Only thing will be the Tuner won't, by itself, show any riding improvements, but MUST be the base for the rest of your upgrades. If you are doing your own labor... the only thing will be buying gaskets as you progress.
#12
now if you send me your e-mail i can send you a set of dyno sheets with this application you will be over 105/105 with this set up forless money in the future.
since you are already at 96ci just put a cam in and re-tune later do the heads for the extra bump ....
imo a woods 6 cam with a 4degree advance or a andrews 54 ( i goofed) cam will also work well..
Last edited by SEDELUXE; 01-05-2010 at 07:41 PM.
#13
Or....
Have your stock cylinders bored to 103 and use the screamin' eagle cast pistons.. Total cost $350 and will be within 5Hp/Torque of the 106 kit. Get yourself an Andrews 54 cam and have Big Boyz do up your heads... Then get yourself the TTS mastertune and have somebody dyno tune it...
Lemme see here.. If you can do ALL the disassembly / reassembly work yourself you could get this done for under $1800 dyno tuned and all...
Save your money, do it once and do it right..
Have your stock cylinders bored to 103 and use the screamin' eagle cast pistons.. Total cost $350 and will be within 5Hp/Torque of the 106 kit. Get yourself an Andrews 54 cam and have Big Boyz do up your heads... Then get yourself the TTS mastertune and have somebody dyno tune it...
Lemme see here.. If you can do ALL the disassembly / reassembly work yourself you could get this done for under $1800 dyno tuned and all...
Save your money, do it once and do it right..
#15
If the big bore kit is a real deal, then go ahead and get it so you are not passing up the deal. But, if you took that money and purchased a set of cams to work with the stock configuration and maybe ones that will aslo work up to the 10.01 such at the HQ 500, T-Man 525 or others, you would be further ahead with cams only vs big bore only.
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
#16
this says it all "how much do you have to spend"
If the big bore kit is a real deal, then go ahead and get it so you are not passing up the deal. But, if you took that money and purchased a set of cams to work with the stock configuration and maybe ones that will aslo work up to the 10.01 such at the HQ 500, T-Man 525 or others, you would be further ahead with cams only vs big bore only.
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
#17
Ok, How much $$ could you get the 106" kit for ? MSRP = $695 Just looking at S&S dyno charts, the 106" kit/583 cam/stock heads/stock TB shows really nice gains over a stock 96". I know all dyno charts are not created equal but their numbers sure look good? Their cams also show little built in ACR's and thats' kinda interesting. I have 0 knowledge of the quality tho ....
#18
If the big bore kit is a real deal, then go ahead and get it so you are not passing up the deal. But, if you took that money and purchased a set of cams to work with the stock configuration and maybe ones that will aslo work up to the 10.01 such at the HQ 500, T-Man 525 or others, you would be further ahead with cams only vs big bore only.
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
Others have made great suggestions regarding the progressive steps to take with a build if you are not going to do it all at once.
HP - How much do you want and how much do you have to spend !!!
I agree with Dalton.
If it was me I would do.......
1. Cams Andrew 37 or Tman 525 or we can have some fun with Tman 625
2. 107 Revoltion Cylinders kit and forged pistions 10.5.1 Warranty for life on warping or plating defects.
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3. CNC port the heads and use 1.900 intake and either 1.615 or 1.625 exhaust. roller rockers .. etc,
4. pcv
5. good exhaust system
6. good lifters
7. good tune etc.....
That would be a fun built motor. at least 100 hp about 115 tq. if not more.
You would have nothing but
#19
$550.00 which is basically cost for it. I'm going to wait as I think I could duplicate this deal down the road when I have enough $ for the whole package.
Ok, How much $$ could you get the 106" kit for ? MSRP = $695 Just looking at S&S dyno charts, the 106" kit/583 cam/stock heads/stock TB shows really nice gains over a stock 96". I know all dyno charts are not created equal but their numbers sure look good? Their cams also show little built in ACR's and thats' kinda interesting. I have 0 knowledge of the quality tho ....
Last edited by nathanw; 01-07-2010 at 10:44 AM.
#20
I've read some nasty stuff about them, I'll stick with S&S. Not to mention the fact that their kit is A LOT more expensive and only 1 more CI, if I wanted to spend 1K I'd go with a Jims 110" or for a couple of bucks more a Jims 120", definitely not worth the $ IMO.
Last edited by nathanw; 01-07-2010 at 10:47 AM.