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Old 12-13-2009, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by red devil
Everybodys favorite...SE cylinders,pistons,heads(110"),cams(260),sert,heavy breather,stock throttle body & injectors and V&H big radius pipes.
I think you have 2 probs.....

1. is the cam

Sele cting a Camshaft
The intake closing point relative to bottom center listed in
the table can be used as a general indicator for the shape of
the torque curve. Earlier intake closing values will result in
higher torque at low engine speeds (along with lower
horsepower at higher engine speeds). Later intake values
will result in higher horsepower at high engine speeds
(along with lower torque at low engine speeds).
Intake Closing
(deg ABDC)


Less
Early intake closing indicates a
than 30°


low speed torque cam.
30° – 50°


M edium intake closing indicates a
mid-range torque cam.
Greater


Late intake closing indicates a
than 50°


high speed power cam.
Intake closing values are just one indicator of the shape of
the torque curve. Camshaft lift and duration along with the
cylinder head‘s port size and flow, engine displacement,
compression ratio, and throttle size also play a roll in the
shape of the torque curve. Harleys words right out of the book


SE-260 CAM KIT*
This cam is designed around large displacement and high
RPM engines. This cam should be used with high compression,
performance heads, and open intake and exhaust. This
cam is used in the 103" and larger Stage 4 Race Kits. It has
the lift and duration necessary to take advantage of the 110+
and CNC ported heads.


For race application only.
25122-02
Harleys words....right out of the book

.609"/.609"


263˚/269˚ Intake: 28˚ BTDC/55˚ ABDC 0.236"/.213"
25475-06


Exhaust: 65˚ BBDC/24˚ ATDC

2. are the pipes

This would be a great cam for a super charger......
 
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:57 AM
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The cam is coming on where I want the power to be, this is a dyna and not a bagger, so the power doesn't have to be down low. I figured that the pipes were the culprit and I just can't bring myself to switch over to a 2-1 just yet. I can't feel this dip, but after seeing it on paper, was wondering what was causing it.
 
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by red devil
The cam is coming on where I want the power to be, this is a dyna and not a bagger, so the power doesn't have to be down low. I figured that the pipes were the culprit and I just can't bring myself to switch over to a 2-1 just yet. I can't feel this dip, but after seeing it on paper, was wondering what was causing it.
I'm running an Andrews 54H and my torque curve is very close to yours. I'm running the V&H Big Shot Staggered, nearly the same pipe..probably the exact same pipe to the engine, lol.
As you say, I can't feel the dip because it revs through it so fast you wouldn't know it was there.

Rock on.

'06 Street Bob
 
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I have the V&H Sideshots w/ BCT QQ's no dip at all.
 
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haven't seen many dynos with that cam, and also feel that it's kinda big for your application...the stock throttle body cannot flow enough air for those cams...i would use a smaller cam and the results would be a lot more torque below 3500 rpm and about the same horsepower
 
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i bet ya if you threw a 625 t-man cam in there you would gain a lot all over the place .
or even a 590.
 
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:30 AM
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A Supertrapp 2/1 will allow your tuner to extract the power via working with the disc's, and broaden the torque, and may make more peak torque and hp as well.
Scott
 
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