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Dyno Comparison: 96" Stage 1 VS SE 103 Stage 2

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Old 03-20-2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mhud
The peak HP is 90 and Torque at 104. This is with no headwork. It has a lot more get up and go; I thought it a good improvement for $1400.
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Old 03-20-2009 | 02:02 PM
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Nice build, great comparison charts!
 
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Old 03-20-2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mhud
The peak HP is 90 and Torque at 104. This is with no headwork. It has a lot more get up and go; I thought it a good improvement for $1400.
How does that $1400 break down?
 
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Old 03-20-2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by harleytuner
Not to burst your bubble, but something just isn't right. 83 HP out of the 103"? Either a bad build or a bad tune. You should be in the mid 90's or higher with your set up. I'd like to see an air fuel line on that printout. I'm getting 89 H.P. out of a 96" stage II and only 6 or 7 TQ. less.
From what iv'e heard, the standard rule of thumb is the HP should be the same if not close to the cubic inch size of the motor. IE. 96" PRODUCING 96 HP, A 103" GIVING YOU 103 HP AND SO ON.TORQUE BEING A DIFFERENT ISSUE AND TOPIC, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GUIDE LINE TO A GOOD BUILD. JUST SAYING!!!
 

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Old 03-21-2009 | 01:28 PM
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Yeah, not bad for the build. Sorry about the mix up.
 
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Old 12-18-2010 | 12:37 PM
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Good thread! I am still deciding on the 103 stage ll or s&s 106 Big bore kit.
 
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Old 12-18-2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hpfatboy
From what iv'e heard, the standard rule of thumb is the HP should be the same if not close to the cubic inch size of the motor. IE. 96" PRODUCING 96 HP, A 103" GIVING YOU 103 HP AND SO ON.TORQUE BEING A DIFFERENT ISSUE AND TOPIC, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GUIDE LINE TO A GOOD BUILD. JUST SAYING!!!
Good luck with that theory, seems much harder to produce in practice. My 2010 Street Glide stock made 68 hp and 84 tq, when it was built and tuned by a very good tuner it made 92 hp and 106 tq out of a stage II 103 with no head work. It was estimated at time of build that porting the heads and throttle body would have netted approximately 6 more hp and tq (Baisley doing the heads). Since tq was the goal of this build opted not to do the heads or throttle body.
 
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Old 12-18-2010 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Inspector 12
Good luck with that theory, seems much harder to produce in practice. My 2010 Street Glide stock made 68 hp and 84 tq, when it was built and tuned by a very good tuner it made 92 hp and 106 tq out of a stage II 103 with no head work. It was estimated at time of build that porting the heads and throttle body would have netted approximately 6 more hp and tq (Baisley doing the heads). Since tq was the goal of this build opted not to do the heads or throttle body.
I dont get it...... those numbers are achievable from a simple bolt in cam and a good tune.

Not trying to insult anyone or their build, but if my numbers were around 90HP / 100TQ after a stage II 103" build I would be very dissapointed.... People are getting those numbers repeatably and consitantly with bolt in cams such as se204 or Woods 6-6 or 555, a/c, 2-1 pipe and a good tune.

No flamers.... just stating the facts.
 
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Old 12-18-2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mhud
I recently added a SE 103 Stage 2 kit to my 08 RG. Prior to the upgrade it was a stock 96 stage 1 with SE A/C and Fatcat 2 to 1. I hope this will help those considering the SE 103 kit better understand what they may get in HP & torque. The attached chart was made from two separate dynos (one before and one after the upgrade) both with the Fatcats and SE A/C.
Good information; thanks for posting. Just shows you how poorly a basically stock 96" performs.
 
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Old 12-19-2010 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by thewholehog
I dont get it...... those numbers are achievable from a simple bolt in cam and a good tune.

Not trying to insult anyone or their build, but if my numbers were around 90HP / 100TQ after a stage II 103" build I would be very dissapointed.... People are getting those numbers repeatably and consitantly with bolt in cams such as se204 or Woods 6-6 or 555, a/c, 2-1 pipe and a good tune.

No flamers.... just stating the facts.
Any idea where one could see dyno sheets on those 96 inch cam, exhaust, air filter, and tune builds cranking out 90 plus hp and 100 plus tq? It would be interesting to see how the torque, horsepower, and fuel curves compare.
 


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