SE 103 or 110 upgrade for my 09 Road Glide?
#31
I really knew what I wanted
Told my dealer to order the 103 kit w 255 cams and flat top pistons, pretty much the SE upgrade. He told me the 10.5 compression would create a potential hot start problem, require a manual compression release and tax the starter motor over time. My goal was more torque from 3000 to 4000 and a 10 year build with moco warrantee. I'm happy!
#32
There are so many misconceptions out there that a high performance engine runs hot and has rideability issues.
Staying with an all HD build will NOT keep the factory warranty in place, only any warranty that the local dealer is willing to provide, meaning that if you break down three states away, you are out of luck.
Aftermarket builds will routinely blow away any equivalent HD build, if you are spending your hard earned money, why not get the most for your money.
For an example, check out Head Quarters http://www.head-quarters.com/index.html for their kit builds with all components specifically designed to work well together. Reliability, power and rideability al from an aftermarket build.
And, anyone that is telling you that a 10.5:1 build runs hot and is hard starting doesn't know what the hell they are doing - a well built, well tuned bike will run cooler than stock and be more reliable at times than stock.
Staying with an all HD build will NOT keep the factory warranty in place, only any warranty that the local dealer is willing to provide, meaning that if you break down three states away, you are out of luck.
Aftermarket builds will routinely blow away any equivalent HD build, if you are spending your hard earned money, why not get the most for your money.
For an example, check out Head Quarters http://www.head-quarters.com/index.html for their kit builds with all components specifically designed to work well together. Reliability, power and rideability al from an aftermarket build.
And, anyone that is telling you that a 10.5:1 build runs hot and is hard starting doesn't know what the hell they are doing - a well built, well tuned bike will run cooler than stock and be more reliable at times than stock.
Last edited by Dalton; 03-18-2009 at 03:12 PM.
#33
I tend to do alot of road trips around Florida (I am located outside of Daytona Beach). I basically want some more power (not of the line power so much as over 2000 rpm, I prefer to be at 30-40mph and be able to punch it and have instant power). I have noticed that the stage II 103 tends to favor power of the line rather than what I am looking for. While I am deciding on what to do, I went ahead and ordered my V&H Monster Ovals & SE Heavy Breather, I figured I will need to upgrade in intake & exhaust reguardless. A few friends told me an easy way to get what I am looking for is to simply upgrade the cam (not sure what size, cost etc, can anyone give info on that?). I noticed way too many complaints about the 110 and I am not looking for a crotch rocket, I want to keep my touring bike what it is designed for but just more power on 2000 rpm +.
Thanks, any help is appreciated.
Thanks, any help is appreciated.
Combined with one of several Wood cams, head mods, and you'll have what you want.
Scott
#35
Told my dealer to order the 103 kit w 255 cams and flat top pistons, pretty much the SE upgrade. He told me the 10.5 compression would create a potential hot start problem, require a manual compression release and tax the starter motor over time. My goal was more torque from 3000 to 4000 and a 10 year build with moco warrantee. I'm happy!
#36
Cowboy, it's an 09 w 110 miles on it. I know the owner of the dealership and BTW he's a straight shooter. Never more than msrp and sometimes discounts. His mech, 24 years old and a grad of the MC school in AZ with 4 years experience, advised against the 10.5 for the hard start issue and against the 260 cams because I'll not be winding it up, short shift mostly. I used to race a Porsche and '67 GT350 so I'm a motorhead and have dealt with my share of finicky machines, I want this bike to be "fool" proof. Usually I would think a young guy with racing experience would seduce me to the higher compression pistons if they were truly something I would like over the long run. In the course of the conversaton he told me the kit with cams and flat top pistons would be warranteed as if a new HD engine; however, the high comp pistons were considered "Race Only" by the moco and would not be warranteeable. That did it for me. Your thoughts?
The kit arrives tomorrow.
The kit arrives tomorrow.
Last edited by mtnbikerx; 03-18-2009 at 08:15 PM.
#37
tell him you want it in writing that if it breaks and you are broke down some where that it is covered .
if he puts it in writing thats cool but i dont think he will.
the se build will be ok. it seems that is what ya want.
i mean most of us understand we have been ther and just tryin to help .
G
if he puts it in writing thats cool but i dont think he will.
the se build will be ok. it seems that is what ya want.
i mean most of us understand we have been ther and just tryin to help .
G
#38
Told my dealer to order the 103 kit w 255 cams and flat top pistons, pretty much the SE upgrade. He told me the 10.5 compression would create a potential hot start problem, require a manual compression release and tax the starter motor over time. My goal was more torque from 3000 to 4000 and a 10 year build with moco warrantee. I'm happy!
#40
Cowboy, it's an 09 w 110 miles on it. I know the owner of the dealership and BTW he's a straight shooter. Never more than msrp and sometimes discounts. His mech, 24 years old and a grad of the MC school in AZ with 4 years experience, advised against the 10.5 for the hard start issue and against the 260 cams because I'll not be winding it up, short shift mostly. I used to race a Porsche and '67 GT350 so I'm a motorhead and have dealt with my share of finicky machines, I want this bike to be "fool" proof. Usually I would think a young guy with racing experience would seduce me to the higher compression pistons if they were truly something I would like over the long run. In the course of the conversaton he told me the kit with cams and flat top pistons would be warranteed as if a new HD engine; however, the high comp pistons were considered "Race Only" by the moco and would not be warranteeable. That did it for me. Your thoughts?
The kit arrives tomorrow.
The kit arrives tomorrow.