Wow they are proud. But it is a programmable and comes with software.

 

Carb is the answer for performance, even with the S&S ECM the M&M plenom WILL run out of fuel delivery including red injectors, been there done that. Ran modded plenoms, raised fuel pressure, built maps, monitoring AFR's closely and although I diagnose EFI control systems daily and wanted to keep the EFI, a prepped stoneage CV or Mikuni will handsdown outperform the Italian delivery sytem. Ran a modded CV and great, switched to a Mikuni 45 and better for giddyup. I've set up Mastertunes, Fuelpaks, Powercommanders in both Delphi and M&M applications so I'm not stuck on a controled drip carb, just ride the results.

With Bakins problem of severe overfuel should be a ETS failure but said it was replaced, the S&S is probaly the wildcard for repairs if fuel altering sensors have been checked or replaced, wires checked, no engine codes and wanting to keep EFI as the ECM is always the last control that is replaced and I'm surprised that a HD flatrate mechanic is touching a Evo M&M but if no stored codes are present and the overfuel doesn't happen with a tech checking it out, they will pull off because flatrate SRA times so deep diagnostics is unlikely

On one note, it is possible for a new sensor to fail also and the Evo M&M ETS can sit on the shelves for a while.

 

why would they not work on an evo?

 

M&M EFI, repairs on this system is a financial loser if troublesome for a HD dealer and only very few experianced HD techs left with M&M as Delphi has been in for 9 years and factory training is for Delphi's which is easier to diagnose because of tendancies and software which in turn feeds a flatrate tech. Inconsistant repairs of the M&M will lead to many many hours of diagnostics and flatrate book turns the repair into a loser for the tech, which will make them hide in the bathroom when they know that job is next.

I have heard a individual dealer policy of anything over 10 years old, tend to stay away from.

 

Not related to fuel injection, but I put a aftermarket crossover breather tube on my Lowrider, couple years back, and when I started bike up, sounded like I had caught a rat by the tail, in my engine. Called Local dealer to see if I could bring bike by, & let them have a listen & tell me what the hell was going on. They said, sorry, & referred me to a local indy, & I politely took my business, elsewhere. Turns out , I had put the crossover tube, 180 deg. out, & the tube was rubbing the bottom of the gas tank. Felt about a foot tall, when they showed me! lol! Hell, shovels dont have crossover tubes!
Ride safe,
Harold

 

I guess it is true on turning away Evo's

"Sounds like I caught a rat by the tail" is a new one, have to put that one with "tougher than putting a wet noodle in a wildcats a$$"

 

Just talking E-27 with stage II and exhaust. MM S&S with red injectors handles that fine. All out mods I'm going mig mouth T- body and a Zipper change over.

 

And this was the service manager from Southern Thunder, in Southhaven, Ms, referring me to a local indy shop. Said my bike was too old. My 66 Shovel is old, not my 96. I have a good shop, that does the stuff, I can't or the time. And the "Sounds like I caught a rat by the tail" has to be a southern thang. Never heard the "tougher than putting a wet noodle in a wildcats a$$", but I like it! Don't know that I would try it. Have some pretty mean bobcat's in these parts.
Ride safe,
Harold

 

Thanks for all the help folks. The harley dealer in Frederick Colo did right by me. I know that he spent 6 or 7 hours diagnosing the problem but only charged me for one. All the codes come back clean and on my way out the door he mentioned the S&S ECM and program. They did change the plugs out and the bike ran great coming home (about 125 miles). By the way, I did have an ez clutch put in and although it has nothing to do with the engine, it is worth its weight in gold... To add to the sayings "This bike is running finer than a frogs hair." Ever see a frogs hair? Pretty fine aren't they.. Thanks again guys for all your help.
Bakins

 

Sounds like they honored the flatrate system, the dealer will make it up in a few Twinkee 1000 mile checkups and a trip thru Tiawan chrome alley but hope all goes well on your runability. Have heard of fine frogs hair but didn't pay too much attention, was after them frog legs.

LowriderHarold, one thing about those Bobcats is the tail won't be in the way when you try and put the noodle in!