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Old 12-31-2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by schwangster
Happy New Year's Eve preparation day!

Only thing I've read about adjusting the rear cylinder timing is from people who have installed Woods cams. Probably best to find one of the Master Mechanics on HDF and find out the how and why. I'm sure someone knows.

Warm enough here today to go riding, albeit a short distance (beer store and back )
Thanks, Dale. I had thought about a Woods W6 cam, but after extensive searching I couldn't find anywhere to buy them online... so I just went with the V-Thunder EVL 3010.

I'll leave it at zero offset for the time being. I would have to get Daytona's USB interface cable, set it in their software, and upload it to the module to change it anyway. That's another $50 or more... this old Evo ain't cheap, but she's sure fun!

And on a day like today, all you really need is beer! And Captain Morgan Private Stock...
 
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Old 12-31-2009 | 08:13 PM
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Hey NorthGeorgiaHog,

Mine has had a Daytona Twin Tec ignition since 05. I have the stock coil so it is still a "dual fire" ignition. No problems at all with it so far.

Happy New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old 12-31-2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wideglide95th
Hey NorthGeorgiaHog,

Mine has had a Daytona Twin Tec ignition since 05. I have the stock coil so it is still a "dual fire" ignition. No problems at all with it so far.

Happy New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike. You're 95 anniversary is NOT a stocker???? My mind is blown tonight!
Shook my foundations!
Anyways, have a great New Years and best to you and family,
and to all the Peace and Quiet lovers here on this thread

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
 
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Old 12-31-2009 | 09:06 PM
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thanks and Happy New Year to

You and Yours
 
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Old 01-01-2010 | 06:06 AM
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[I do have an actual question about rear cylinder timing... Anyone here have anything to say about rear cylinder timing offset? The Twin-Tec unit can vary the rear cylinder timing offset up to plus or minus 5 degrees in one-degree increments, but the instructions don't give any recommendations on it - other than that it can be used to "minimize rear cylinder misfiring." Default is zero offset. Okay... I have googled the subject but haven't been able to find any guidance about it anywhere. Thanks for any info or experience anyone can to share about that.

I wish everyone here a Happy New Year! [/QUOTE]

The rear cylinder timing can be helpful with some engine combinations, it can make up for slight errors in the timing cup, etc. There is no hard, fast rule. You need to put the bike on a dyno and get it tuned properly with the timing "straight up". Then move the timing in two degrees steps each way, watching the results. After you get the best results you can try one degree steps to see if it helps. once you have the best result you need to know that any changes in base timing will make you have to do the ofsett timing all over again. we've found that the gain with the rear offset is usually less that 2-3 horsepower and twice that in torque. Those results are with the cams we normally use, others may have found different results. Hope this helps.
 
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Old 01-02-2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wideglide95th
Hey NorthGeorgiaHog,

Mine has had a Daytona Twin Tec ignition since 05. I have the stock coil so it is still a "dual fire" ignition. No problems at all with it so far.

Happy New Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good to hear the Twin-Tec performs well and lasts, Mike. I had thought about getting just the ignition module, but went ahead and got the whole kit with the single-fire coil and new spiral core wires at a good price from Phat I wanted to go single fire anyway, plus I figured my plug wires were probably OEM and now 15 years old anyway and due for replacement. The Twin-Tec docs said to not use carbon suppression wires or the module might not work right - but that may just be marketing talk. Anyway, the new ignition system seems to work quite well so far.

My new Velva Touch lifters and rods finally arrived on Thursday, just before we left for the NY eve party. We just got back home an hour ago, and I'm going to begin the installation of the new cam, lifters, and rods this afternoon- after I read the instructions 3 times to make sure I don't screw anything up! Got my oil heater running full blast in the garage... it's 31 F right now, and supposed to get down into the teens tonight and tomorrow night, so I figured this would be a good time to tear into things. I picked up a small bolt cutter tool for $8 in the bargain bin at an auto store on the way back to cut out the old rods. I hope it's strong enough to cut through them without too much trouble.

Hope everyone here had a great New Years. I am sure not looking forward to going back to work on Monday...
 
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Old 01-02-2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by miacycles
[[B][I] The rear cylinder timing can be helpful with some engine combinations, it can make up for slight errors in the timing cup, etc. There is no hard, fast rule. You need to put the bike on a dyno and get it tuned properly with the timing "straight up". Then move the timing in two degrees steps each way, watching the results. After you get the best results you can try one degree steps to see if it helps. once you have the best result you need to know that any changes in base timing will make you have to do the ofsett timing all over again. we've found that the gain with the rear offset is usually less that 2-3 horsepower and twice that in torque. Those results are with the cams we normally use, others may have found different results. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info, John. I think I'll just leave it at zero for now. After I get all the new hardware installed, I will get the bike dynoed at some point, and I'll be able to see how everything works and what needs to be changed.
 
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Old 01-03-2010 | 09:09 AM
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Happy New Year to all peaceful Evo owners! Hope all the winter projects are making good progress....
 
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Old 01-03-2010 | 09:13 AM
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Peace to you all my friends!

I grew up in the peace generation. Instead of shootings and stabbings that we have now, our message to the world was peace.

"Imagine" - John Lennon
 
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Old 01-03-2010 | 11:08 AM
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Good morning and Good New Year!

What a world. Tried to send a package with a seat to USA yesterday. Found a box that it fit in, but I wasn't allowed to mail it because the anti-terrorist act says no writing allowed on boxes!
It was a waffle cone box.

"All we are saying, is give peace a chance!"
 


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