Keihin butterfly carb repair and fixes
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Keihin butterfly carb repair and fixes
After much help by posts on this forum about keihins butterfly carbs (27029-88) , I have at last got my recently acquired FLHS of 89 vintage running well, after 20 years of storage and not being run. It had 3800 miles on the clock and its original front tire.
I thought I would write what it took to get my bike running properly, so that I may help someone down the line with the same issues.
Replacing old fuel, fuel hoses and the cracked fuel connector was the starting point, after which I bought a couple of carb rebuild kits/gaskets etc.
I had the bowl and integral brass accelerator jet sonic cleaned at my local mower shop, and cleaned the internal bunged up pilot and main jets. Search this forum and there is good detail about this process as well as float height etc.
I replaced the old compliance fittings, but was left with an awful no throttle to some throttle hesitation that no amount of adusting, cleaning and re-cleaning would shift. Revealing the external fuel screw from under the smaller blank piece enabled adjustment, but no improvement.
On reading another posters advice for the umpteenth time, I realised that replacing the 0.52 mm pilot jet with a 0.58mm (the next size up) was not the probable waste of time it seemed, as the hole would in fact be 25% bigger, and not the insignificant increase I had imagined .
Having replaced the pilot jet with the bigger one, my bike now has as good a pick up of throttle and as good fuelling as any v twin I have ever ridden. No carb popping, no misfire, all is good in my keihin world.
I have no doubt that I will one day take the advice many have given, which is to bin the keihin, but now it will be because one day I will chose to, rather than have to.
Thanks for all help received.
I thought I would write what it took to get my bike running properly, so that I may help someone down the line with the same issues.
Replacing old fuel, fuel hoses and the cracked fuel connector was the starting point, after which I bought a couple of carb rebuild kits/gaskets etc.
I had the bowl and integral brass accelerator jet sonic cleaned at my local mower shop, and cleaned the internal bunged up pilot and main jets. Search this forum and there is good detail about this process as well as float height etc.
I replaced the old compliance fittings, but was left with an awful no throttle to some throttle hesitation that no amount of adusting, cleaning and re-cleaning would shift. Revealing the external fuel screw from under the smaller blank piece enabled adjustment, but no improvement.
On reading another posters advice for the umpteenth time, I realised that replacing the 0.52 mm pilot jet with a 0.58mm (the next size up) was not the probable waste of time it seemed, as the hole would in fact be 25% bigger, and not the insignificant increase I had imagined .
Having replaced the pilot jet with the bigger one, my bike now has as good a pick up of throttle and as good fuelling as any v twin I have ever ridden. No carb popping, no misfire, all is good in my keihin world.
I have no doubt that I will one day take the advice many have given, which is to bin the keihin, but now it will be because one day I will chose to, rather than have to.
Thanks for all help received.
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hw3tnt3 (04-24-2018)
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Good luck trying to convince anyone who knows anything about Harleys to believe this...
No amount of tuning can make the butterfly carb equal a CV, Mikuni Smoothbore, or an S&S carb.
The Butterfly is an antiquated design that does not allow the engine to breathe enough air.
No amount of tuning can make the butterfly carb equal a CV, Mikuni Smoothbore, or an S&S carb.
The Butterfly is an antiquated design that does not allow the engine to breathe enough air.
Last edited by Dan89FLSTC; 10-07-2017 at 07:30 PM.
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Plenty of guys, (including me) have done the swap to a CV, and have noticed a noticeable increase in power and throttle response on otherwise stock engines.
I`m glad you are happy with your butterfly carb.
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badcooky (10-15-2017)