Lets argue carbs
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Lets argue carbs
I've been doing some engineering trying to figure out what my over-the-winter engine work on the FXR is going to entail, and I'm wondering about carbs.
For ordinary builds (mine is going to be stock stroke and hopefully stock bore assuming my jugs are ok, mild comp bump, probably stock pistons), what advantage is there to going S&S?
I'm really hoping there is a good answer because I think the teardrop air cleaner is totally badass and I'd love a reason to go that way, but I'm having a hard time finding a reason that my plain old CV won't work just fine or better.
So argue with me.
For ordinary builds (mine is going to be stock stroke and hopefully stock bore assuming my jugs are ok, mild comp bump, probably stock pistons), what advantage is there to going S&S?
I'm really hoping there is a good answer because I think the teardrop air cleaner is totally badass and I'd love a reason to go that way, but I'm having a hard time finding a reason that my plain old CV won't work just fine or better.
So argue with me.
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If you wanted, couldn't you install an S&S Teardrop Air Cleaner Kit on your CV carb?
I find the stock Keihin CV carburetor on my '93 Fatboy reliable, easy to work on and it runs great even at different altitudes. I did make the typical changes to the carb:
Drilled out idle mixture screw
Changed Main Needle - N65C (27094-88 or sportster 88 XLH needle)
Changed Main Jet - 165 (27116-88)
Changed Pilot Jet - 45 (27170-89)
My original HD fuel inlet elbow broke, so I replaced it with a CV Performance Harley Fuel Inlet Single Piece Brass Elbow
http://www.cv-performance.com/harley...x-inlet-elbow/
I get at least 45 mpg and she starts and runs great.
I find the stock Keihin CV carburetor on my '93 Fatboy reliable, easy to work on and it runs great even at different altitudes. I did make the typical changes to the carb:
Drilled out idle mixture screw
Changed Main Needle - N65C (27094-88 or sportster 88 XLH needle)
Changed Main Jet - 165 (27116-88)
Changed Pilot Jet - 45 (27170-89)
My original HD fuel inlet elbow broke, so I replaced it with a CV Performance Harley Fuel Inlet Single Piece Brass Elbow
http://www.cv-performance.com/harley...x-inlet-elbow/
I get at least 45 mpg and she starts and runs great.
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The Mikuni is harder to get dialed in right, but once it is, it works well at all speeds with no hesitation between low and high speed.
S & S is popular because it is very easy to get right and is exceedingly simple.
The CV carb is good once you drill out the plug, and properly jet and adjust it. I like dynojet jet kits with a thunderslide in them while others hate them. To me it gives better throttle response that you don't necessarily see on a dyno. There are different dynojet kits, so it is important to choose the right one.
Older carburetors (prior the CV) were terrible and the compliance fittings were problematic.
I have a dynojet kit in my cv carb and it works great. Burns a little more gas than I would like, but when I twist the throttle, it pushes me back in my seat.
You can't go wrong with any of these three. The main thing is to stay away from those old crappy carburetors early Evo's came with.
S & S is popular because it is very easy to get right and is exceedingly simple.
The CV carb is good once you drill out the plug, and properly jet and adjust it. I like dynojet jet kits with a thunderslide in them while others hate them. To me it gives better throttle response that you don't necessarily see on a dyno. There are different dynojet kits, so it is important to choose the right one.
Older carburetors (prior the CV) were terrible and the compliance fittings were problematic.
I have a dynojet kit in my cv carb and it works great. Burns a little more gas than I would like, but when I twist the throttle, it pushes me back in my seat.
You can't go wrong with any of these three. The main thing is to stay away from those old crappy carburetors early Evo's came with.
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I've been doing some engineering trying to figure out what my over-the-winter engine work on the FXR is going to entail, and I'm wondering about carbs.
For ordinary builds (mine is going to be stock stroke and hopefully stock bore assuming my jugs are ok, mild comp bump, probably stock pistons), what advantage is there to going S&S?
I'm really hoping there is a good answer because I think the teardrop air cleaner is totally badass and I'd love a reason to go that way, but I'm having a hard time finding a reason that my plain old CV won't work just fine or better.
So argue with me.
For ordinary builds (mine is going to be stock stroke and hopefully stock bore assuming my jugs are ok, mild comp bump, probably stock pistons), what advantage is there to going S&S?
I'm really hoping there is a good answer because I think the teardrop air cleaner is totally badass and I'd love a reason to go that way, but I'm having a hard time finding a reason that my plain old CV won't work just fine or better.
So argue with me.
Just put a teardrop on your CV if the air cleaner is all you want....I put an S&S A/C on my HS42 Mikuni because I think that the S&S teardrop is the best looking filter ever produced for a Harley.
Here's mine!
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The choice for my rebuild/whatever
I've been working on my mess of a '96 Road King, and the Super E is what I've decided to go with. Though the CV has lasted this long, it has been through too many owners for me to trust. I COULD pull it apart and rebuild it, but it's just as much work for me to plan ahead and just install the Super E.
It didn't become the industry standard by being a POS. I figure this way I get new, trustworthy hardware on a bike I plan on riding the **** out of.
It didn't become the industry standard by being a POS. I figure this way I get new, trustworthy hardware on a bike I plan on riding the **** out of.