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Old 07-26-2024 | 11:29 AM
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Bought a 98 wide glide last fall. Been starting great, no signs of trouble, then the dreaded spin only.
Replaced the starter clutch with an All *****, rebuilt the solenoid, replaced the relay, cleaned up the grounds
and checked the wiring best I could. It throws the jack shaft out fine but only spins inside the starter.
Battery is new and fully charged. I'm guessing I need to replace more starter parts? Or did I get a bad clutch?
(the jackshaft will easily turn in both directions, same as before I changed the clutch)
Thanks for any insight.
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 12:20 PM
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sounds like you got the wrong pinion
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bustert
sounds like you got the wrong pinion
Sorry, I don't follow. Replaced the wrong part?
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 04:23 PM
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Is the ball bearing in the pinion shaft that the solenoid plunger shaft pushes against? If the ball is missing, the pinion gear will not engage with the ring gear.
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy C
Is the ball bearing in the pinion shaft that the solenoid plunger shaft pushes against? If the ball is missing, the pinion gear will not engage with the ring gear.
Yes. I made sure not to lose that guy.
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 05:08 PM
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Starter has a sprag clutch. Starter motor drives it with roller pins. Can't slip. Now if you say kept starter button down, once gas motor is running, it out runs the starter motor and the drive pins run down the ramps inside completely disengages the pinion gear from the starter motor.

Basically like the rear wheel on a 10 speed bicycle. Harley has roller pins kept in tension by rectangle shaped coil springs.

Never seen inside a All Ball one. Been wondering if it uses ball bearings for the drive rather then roller pins.
 
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Old 07-26-2024 | 06:00 PM
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Is the pinion kicking out into the ring gear, or just spinning in place?
 
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Old 07-27-2024 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Is the pinion kicking out into the ring gear, or just spinning in place?
It's kicking out fine. I do get a little resistance when turning that pinion clockwise but can still turn it nonetheless.
No resistance counterclockwise.
 
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Old 07-27-2024 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GoG/GoW
It's kicking out fine. I do get a little resistance when turning that pinion clockwise but can still turn it nonetheless.
No resistance counterclockwise.
Your back to the clutch assembly or an installation something that go missed. New one can be bad out of the box, rare but has happened.
 
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Old 07-28-2024 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Your back to the clutch assembly or an installation something that go missed. New one can be bad out of the box, rare but has happened.
OK. Thanks. I'll take it apart again and match it with the schematic I have to be sure.
 


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