Metallic noise at low RPM
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djl (01-16-2024)
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Max Headflow (01-18-2024)
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The message is get in the motor ASAP and no more startup. These photos are worst case scenario. Usually the lifter roller starts to lock up and you hear the noise in your video. The roller skids on the cam, and if run too long or the lifter just gives out then you get a lot of damage.
I hope it's not what it is, but it sure sounds like it.
I hope it's not what it is, but it sure sounds like it.
Last edited by Ohio HD; 01-16-2024 at 09:26 PM.
#16
The message is get in the motor ASAP and no more startup. These photos are worst case scenario. Usually the lifter roller starts to lock up and you hear the noise in your video. The roller skids on the cam, and if run too long or the lifter just gives out then you get a lot of damage.
I hope it's not what it is, but it sure sounds like it.
I hope it's not what it is, but it sure sounds like it.
Ok ok, maybe lifter change will be the solution. Any method to check if valves are affected or visual inspection its enough? (see any scratches).
In this case, its necessary change lifters, valve train, pushrods..?
About the replacement, original or any reinforced aftermarket like S&S?
#17
If it were me, this i how I'd proceed.
You can remove the cam cover, and see the outer tensioner, it's really hard to see the inner tensioner. But you also should be able to roll the motor over to listen for noises. If you don't see any issues there, then I would go after the lifters next.
See the photo below, you can't see the lifters or the cam with the camplate still installed. In order to remove the cam plate you have to remove the pushrods. So with the pushrods out, remove the tappet covers and you can lift out the lifters one at a time and look at them, check the roller for wear and tight spots when rolling. Also you can see the cam lobes with a small flashlight. If a lifter is damaged, the lobe will follow.
If you don't see lifter or lobe damage, you could then remove the camplate to inspect the inner cam bearings. I don't think it's likely that they are the sound, but at that point in disassembly you should look.
You can remove the cam cover, and see the outer tensioner, it's really hard to see the inner tensioner. But you also should be able to roll the motor over to listen for noises. If you don't see any issues there, then I would go after the lifters next.
See the photo below, you can't see the lifters or the cam with the camplate still installed. In order to remove the cam plate you have to remove the pushrods. So with the pushrods out, remove the tappet covers and you can lift out the lifters one at a time and look at them, check the roller for wear and tight spots when rolling. Also you can see the cam lobes with a small flashlight. If a lifter is damaged, the lobe will follow.
If you don't see lifter or lobe damage, you could then remove the camplate to inspect the inner cam bearings. I don't think it's likely that they are the sound, but at that point in disassembly you should look.
#18
If it were me, this i how I'd proceed.
You can remove the cam cover, and see the outer tensioner, it's really hard to see the inner tensioner. But you also should be able to roll the motor over to listen for noises. If you don't see any issues there, then I would go after the lifters next.
See the photo below, you can't see the lifters or the cam with the camplate still installed. In order to remove the cam plate you have to remove the pushrods. So with the pushrods out, remove the tappet covers and you can lift out the lifters one at a time and look at them, check the roller for wear and tight spots when rolling. Also you can see the cam lobes with a small flashlight. If a lifter is damaged, the lobe will follow.
If you don't see lifter or lobe damage, you could then remove the camplate to inspect the inner cam bearings. I don't think it's likely that they are the sound, but at that point in disassembly you should look.
You can remove the cam cover, and see the outer tensioner, it's really hard to see the inner tensioner. But you also should be able to roll the motor over to listen for noises. If you don't see any issues there, then I would go after the lifters next.
See the photo below, you can't see the lifters or the cam with the camplate still installed. In order to remove the cam plate you have to remove the pushrods. So with the pushrods out, remove the tappet covers and you can lift out the lifters one at a time and look at them, check the roller for wear and tight spots when rolling. Also you can see the cam lobes with a small flashlight. If a lifter is damaged, the lobe will follow.
If you don't see lifter or lobe damage, you could then remove the camplate to inspect the inner cam bearings. I don't think it's likely that they are the sound, but at that point in disassembly you should look.
My plan:
Open upper cover on cilinders, take off valve actioners, take out rocker bars? (im not sure how it means in English, long metallic bar and cover) and after that i can take out lifters and check? If i see damage on valves crankshaft continue opening distribution cover....
#19
Your English is fine. Bettter than some Americans.
If you get anywhere close to the tensioner I would just change them, or better maybe upgrade the cam drive. I'm kinda forgetful but I think there's a gear drive system to drive the the cams. It's a common issue. 30,000 miles seems to be about the worse case I remember hearing about. It's best to check them every 30k or so. A broken tensioner can have a nasty outcome.
I've had two Twin Cams. One had 140,000 miles and one had 100,000 and I never had an issue but once i got to around 50,000 the tensioners got checked
If you get anywhere close to the tensioner I would just change them, or better maybe upgrade the cam drive. I'm kinda forgetful but I think there's a gear drive system to drive the the cams. It's a common issue. 30,000 miles seems to be about the worse case I remember hearing about. It's best to check them every 30k or so. A broken tensioner can have a nasty outcome.
I've had two Twin Cams. One had 140,000 miles and one had 100,000 and I never had an issue but once i got to around 50,000 the tensioners got checked
Last edited by edilgdaor; 01-17-2024 at 03:23 AM.
#20
Your English is fine. Bettter than some Americans.
If you get anywhere close to the tensioner I would just change them, or better maybe upgrade the cam drive. I'm kinda forgetful but I think there's a gear drive system to drive the the cams. It's a common issue. 30,000 miles seems to be about the worse case I remember hearing about. It's best to check them every 30k or so. A broken tensioner can have a nasty outcome.
I've had two Twin Cams. One had 140,000 miles and one had 100,000 and I never had an issue but once i got to around 50,000 the tensioners got checked
If you get anywhere close to the tensioner I would just change them, or better maybe upgrade the cam drive. I'm kinda forgetful but I think there's a gear drive system to drive the the cams. It's a common issue. 30,000 miles seems to be about the worse case I remember hearing about. It's best to check them every 30k or so. A broken tensioner can have a nasty outcome.
I've had two Twin Cams. One had 140,000 miles and one had 100,000 and I never had an issue but once i got to around 50,000 the tensioners got checked
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