Aftermarket Cam Chain Tensioners for stock 88" TC ??
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Do not bump oil pressure. If you have the precision measuring tools, you can measure the oil pump wear. Will need a service manual to know the tolerance.( Basically the end face wears allow oil to leak by) You are probably fine if that face groove looks less then a sheet of paper and the actual rotors are smooth. If you pull pump apart, replace the o ring.
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I have all the measuring tools and such. Just a couple months I had my jeep all apart and measured and reused the pump on a major overhaul of the engine, transmission and transfer.
So if it where I, I would of course check it and replace that o-ring. A 2001 surely needs at a minimum, the o-ring.
Your bike is a lot heaver then mine and probably has seen a lot of rpm. No way I can answer your question or sense your mechanical ability to do any of this
So if it where I, I would of course check it and replace that o-ring. A 2001 surely needs at a minimum, the o-ring.
Your bike is a lot heaver then mine and probably has seen a lot of rpm. No way I can answer your question or sense your mechanical ability to do any of this
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I have all the measuring tools and such. Just a couple months I had my jeep all apart and measured and reused the pump on a major overhaul of the engine, transmission and transfer.
So if it where I, I would of course check it and replace that o-ring. A 2001 surely needs at a minimum, the o-ring.
Your bike is a lot heaver then mine and probably has seen a lot of rpm. No way I can answer your question or sense your mechanical ability to do any of this
So if it where I, I would of course check it and replace that o-ring. A 2001 surely needs at a minimum, the o-ring.
Your bike is a lot heaver then mine and probably has seen a lot of rpm. No way I can answer your question or sense your mechanical ability to do any of this
The pic below means the oil pump is coming apart. The owner of this bike didn't hear any noise before I disassembled it.
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No need for special tools to align the oil pump; it will self align. Put the trans in 5th gear, plugs out, snug two pump corner fasteners up finger snug. Rotate the rear wheel and crank and while rotating tighten the two fasteners snugger, not torqued to spec. Install the other two fasteners and torque to spec in sequence. There are alignment pins nice to have but not necessary.
I would also remove the pressure relief piston from the bore in the cam plate, make sure the bore is free of any debris, buff up the piston so that it moves freely in the bore and reinstall. You could shim the spring with a thin washer or install the Baisley spring to help boost low rpm oil pressure but not a must do.
Install the chains so that they rotate in the same direction, again, not a must but they have been running that way since new and are now "polished". The CYCO shoes will last a long time. Install the lifters in the same bore and the pushrods in the same location as they were before. Not a big deal but those parts have been working together since they left the factory and, if possible, a good idea to keep them in their familiar locations.
Be careful with the cam plate fasteners at the 10:00 and 2:00 locations where the dowels are located. They are easily stripped and keep the torque to the low end of the spec.
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run1fsr (01-29-2018)
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Too cool djl but a thought. I have been thinking about the engineering of the oil pump pressure spring and how I relate to it since my post above.
A while back, Whickipeda had a article on the early development of the TC about it's growing pains and one was overheating. One thing they pointed out was an explanation of the oil injectors and the fact that Harley realize by injecting oil at idle actually made things worst by cooking the oil.
However, just a thought but that relief as set from the factory only controls one end of the oil pressure and that is the top end 33 or so PSI.
I would think pump size and idle controls the bottom side. So shimming or increasing the spring tension maybe does not affect low end. You think it bleeds all the way up thru the RPM range?
A while back, Whickipeda had a article on the early development of the TC about it's growing pains and one was overheating. One thing they pointed out was an explanation of the oil injectors and the fact that Harley realize by injecting oil at idle actually made things worst by cooking the oil.
However, just a thought but that relief as set from the factory only controls one end of the oil pressure and that is the top end 33 or so PSI.
I would think pump size and idle controls the bottom side. So shimming or increasing the spring tension maybe does not affect low end. You think it bleeds all the way up thru the RPM range?
Last edited by Jackie Paper; 01-29-2018 at 06:27 PM.
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Not sure what you mean by "bleeds all the way up the rpm range" but I think the answer is yes. The OEM spring can vary in length; factory tolerances are just not that tight. The spring, cut to the specified length, flat ground ends to insure correct pressure and the increase in coil count increase oil pressure at a progressive rate; from idle on up. Not a huge increase but 3-5 psi across the board; I have not seen more. Maybe just enough to resist lifter bleed down at higher rpms.
In your previous post you mentioned that the piston oilers need 18psi to open but IIRC, the early models only need 15psi. I am not sure that I buy the Wikipedia information; could have come from anywhere. Knowing the MoCo bean counters, if the piston jets truly contributed to over heating, the bean counters would eliminate them in a hear beat. Wikipedia articles can come from anywhere.
In your previous post you mentioned that the piston oilers need 18psi to open but IIRC, the early models only need 15psi. I am not sure that I buy the Wikipedia information; could have come from anywhere. Knowing the MoCo bean counters, if the piston jets truly contributed to over heating, the bean counters would eliminate them in a hear beat. Wikipedia articles can come from anywhere.
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Install the chains so that they rotate in the same direction, again, not a must but they have been running that way since new and are now "polished". The CYCO shoes will last a long time. Install the lifters in the same bore and the pushrods in the same location as they were before. Not a big deal but those parts have been working together since they left the factory and, if possible, a good idea to keep them in their familiar locations