Engine Mechanical Topics Discussion for motor builds, cams, head work, stripped bolts and other engine related issues. The good and the bad. If it goes round and around or up and down, post it here.

Engine timing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-04-2014, 08:13 PM
Am4wag's Avatar
Am4wag
Am4wag is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeastern Md.
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Engine timing

TC88........Got lifters,pushrods,rocker shafts,cam plate assy.,and oil pump out.Pressed in new cams,changed inner bearings,replaced tensioner shoes,and waiting on an (updated) oil pump.Didn't keep track of any rotating order while removing everything.Now I'm going back together slowly.Looking at illustrations of the arrangements as far as getting the rear cam sprockets lined up/clocked,looks to me like the rear cylinder would be at TDC.How can I be sure/go about making sure the rear is in fact TDC-not only by the piston being all the way up,but the ignition in time with THAT?
 

Last edited by Am4wag; 11-04-2014 at 08:17 PM.
  #2  
Old 11-04-2014, 08:19 PM
QC's Avatar
QC
QC is offline
Club Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Centennial, CO
Posts: 100,442
Received 19,803 Likes on 9,866 Posts
Default

Front cylinder should be on TDC. Flat on the crankshaft should be pointing at approximately the 11:00 position. There is a line on the front of the cam plate that the flat on the crank should be perpendicular to. Everything starts from there.
 
  #3  
Old 11-04-2014, 09:06 PM
Am4wag's Avatar
Am4wag
Am4wag is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeastern Md.
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by QC
Front cylinder should be on TDC. Flat on the crankshaft should be pointing at approximately the 11:00 position. There is a line on the front of the cam plate that the flat on the crank should be perpendicular to. Everything starts from there.
.......and the dots on the cam sprockets pointing at each other.That being said (and I do follow you),I want to be sure the ignition timing is going to be ok due to me previously turning engine.But wait,the crank sensor (I'm assuming magnets or some kind of "reluctor" material) goes around as well,so every time piston is up for that cyl.,theres ignition as well?Dual fire ignition?No "getting lost" in between strokes?
 
  #4  
Old 11-04-2014, 10:43 PM
Wide N Low 13's Avatar
Wide N Low 13
Wide N Low 13 is offline
Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: S. FL
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Ign timing is not adjustable unless you have a aftermarket Ign (carbed bike) or a fuel injection with a tuner. The bike uses the crank position sensor (and cam sensor depending on the year of the bike) for Ign timing. The Ign is a single fire (fires the plug when the cyl is on the compress stroke, the other cyl dose not get a wasted spark). The bike will know when to fire the Ign regardless of how many times you turn over the motor. Clear as mud? Hope it helps.
 
  #5  
Old 11-05-2014, 11:54 AM
djl's Avatar
djl
djl is offline
HDF Community Team
Veteran: Army
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: san antonio
Posts: 12,245
Received 2,224 Likes on 1,609 Posts
Default

The rear cylinder is #1 and front is #2. The below photos show the sprocket alignment of each cylinder at TDC. First is rear cylinder at TDC and second is front cylinder at TDC.





Wide N Low 13 has you sorted out on ignition timing; not in play until time to tune.
 
  #6  
Old 11-06-2014, 07:31 AM
Am4wag's Avatar
Am4wag
Am4wag is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeastern Md.
Posts: 415
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Pretty much same pictures I saw djl ...What threw me off was calling the rear #1 and front #2 ......Wide N Low 13,ign. is stock.
 
  #7  
Old 11-06-2014, 11:07 AM
senna's Avatar
senna
senna is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: San Jose
Posts: 1,096
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Am4wag
Pretty much same pictures I saw djl ...What threw me off was calling the rear #1 and front #2 ......Wide N Low 13,ign. is stock.
The engine rotates clockwise when viewed from the cam side.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ultrahog07
EVO
11
07-31-2014 01:06 PM
Klor
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
10
09-22-2012 09:14 AM
gtojets
EVO
8
12-21-2009 08:16 AM
CTP
Ironhead
6
09-07-2007 01:13 AM
Greybeardrider
EVO
5
08-10-2007 07:57 PM



Quick Reply: Engine timing



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:19 PM.