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Old 09-24-2024 | 10:52 AM
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New to this Forum, I own a Fatboy Evolution 1998 since 2014, I'm a 56 years old driver, from Beirut Lebanon.
I'm facing a problem with my Fatboy, after a long hard drive ride i park my bike then the day after and for 3 to 4 days tying to start it again without any success, the coil ignition test is good from both sides , but there's no power arriving to the coil, after several failed attempts a few days after, the engine start giving signals that it will start with some exhaust explosions, this condition only occurs after a long hard drive ride.
ignition coil OK
spark plugs OK
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Old 09-24-2024 | 03:46 PM
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@Peter-1968 I have moved this thread from the Welcome section to the Electrical/Lighting/Alarm section as you will get better responses to your question in this section.
 
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Old 09-24-2024 | 04:46 PM
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How do you check the power on the coil? Does the stater work?
 
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Old 09-24-2024 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ya Tigor
How do you check the power on the coil? Does the stater work?
yes everything works, I tested the coil like the following
1 remove the wires
2 putt the ohmmeter on plugs place 12.5
3 on wires place 4 ohm
and actually i did replace the coil by another one i have it spare
 

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Old 09-24-2024 | 06:09 PM
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I think since you say it's not getting power to coil and you have determined coil is good which is easy with ohm meter, that's the Ignition control module looking for the Engine Crank Position Sensor.

The crank sensor is getting hot and cutting out.

The Crank Sensor is by oil filter. It's cheap. You can ohm it when good and then when it acts up.

Resistance is so low (1 meg) however, most meters won't check it accurately. Also can monitor it for about 4 volts AC

It's a coil of wire around a perment magnet. When the teeth in the crank come by, it creates a little AC current. Two teeth are missing. The ECM reads that and knows where timing is. Only then does it enable power to coil

PS. Welcome to the HDFORUM. Only as a suggestion make another new thread over in the newmember welcome area to say hello. Stick around and enjoy your ride here with us.
 

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Old 09-24-2024 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter-1968
yes everything works, I tested the coil like the following
1 remove the wires
2 putt the ohmmeter on plugs place 12.5
3 on wires place 4 ohm
and actually i did replace the coil by another one i have it spare
I mean how did you test the power on the coil.

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I think since you say it's not getting power to coil and you have determined coil is good which is easy with ohm meter, that's the ECM looking for the Engine Crank Position Sensor.

The crank sensor is getting hot and cutting out.
Its a 1998 fatboy.
 
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Old 09-24-2024 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ya Tigor
I mean how did you test the power on the coil.


Its a 1998 fatboy.
My bad. Forget fuelpump and ECM. But your ignition control module is not going to let it fire without the crank sensor.

Now no power to the coil is either a ignition switch or that on/off bar switch.

On your old bike not sure if you have an alarm TSSM, how or what that kills. Don't have access to my older on line manual.




 

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Old 09-24-2024 | 08:55 PM
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Carbureted Evo never had a CKP or security system. Also if his starter works it means the Engine Stop switch is powered and delivers power further down the circuit. So we need the OP to confirm if he has power on white/black wire at both ignition coil and ignition module when his bike is not starting but able to crank.
 

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Old 09-25-2024 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ya Tigor
Carbureted Evo never had a CKP or security system. Also if his starter works it means the Engine Stop switch is powered and delivers power further down the circuit. So we need the OP to confirm if he has power on white/black wire at both ignition coil and ignition module when his bike is not starting but able to crank.
My bad, thought this was the first TC year. Followed it out of Welcome area and missed EVO in title.

Thanks, I will listen but one question.. When I look at the pickup behind the timer cover 32448-95B SENSOR ASM., CAM POSITION/VEHICLE ATTITUDE. Does that mean it does have a bank angle feature that stops motor if bike drops?
 
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Old 09-25-2024 | 11:49 AM
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dear, there's no power on both wires of the coil, also i did connect 2 plugs external on plugs wires and put them close to cylinder while trying cranking , no flames
the fuel pump is ok,
95% the problem is from the Crankshaft sensor position as Jackie Paper said, can't find one , still searching,
 


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