Electrical/Lighting/Alarm Having electrical problems? Discussion on everything electrical and lighting systems.

Rear brake light switch question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-04-2022, 05:47 PM
Boxerguy8888's Avatar
Boxerguy8888
Boxerguy8888 is offline
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Delaware
Posts: 43
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Rear brake light switch question

2008 Dyna fat bob.
so yesterday I'm sitting at a light, not even using my rear brake. I start to smell something electrical burning and suddenly there's a big cloud of smoke that just as quickly blows away. I pull over and check for an issue and find that one of the connections to the rear hydraulic brake light switch is completely melted off.
Today I replaced the switch. I wasnt sure if it just went bad or if there was another issue that caused it. Electrical is not my strong suit but just for fun I checked it with a volt meter. I did not connect the wires to the switch at first and I found that when the bike power is on one wire has 12v going through it, when I checked the other wire, it also had power but it was only 7.3v.
I assume the 12v is coming from the battery, but am confused as to why the other wire, (which i assume is going from the switch to the brake light) has voltage. Is this normal? Or does that mean there's a short feeding back from the brake light to the switch?
Thanks in advance.
 
  #2  
Old 06-04-2022, 07:37 PM
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Dan89FLSTC is online now
Seasoned HDF Member

Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 18,508
Received 9,275 Likes on 4,946 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Boxerguy8888
I assume the 12v is coming from the battery, but am confused as to why the other wire, (which i assume is going from the switch to the brake light) has voltage. Is this normal? Or does that mean there's a short feeding back from the brake light to the switch?
Thanks in advance.
Look at the wiring diagram, you will see that the Red/Yellow wire comes from both the front and rear brake lamp switch and goes to the brake lamp.

The Orange/White wire powers both brake light switches.

When either switch is made, the Red/Yellow wire will get power, illuminating the brake lamp.




 
  #3  
Old 06-04-2022, 07:40 PM
Ed Ramberger's Avatar
Ed Ramberger
Ed Ramberger is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Then Wisconsin, now North Carolina
Posts: 3,276
Received 966 Likes on 668 Posts
Default

A burnt terminal is typically caused by a loose or corroded/high resistance connection.
 
  #4  
Old 06-04-2022, 08:23 PM
Boxerguy8888's Avatar
Boxerguy8888
Boxerguy8888 is offline
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Delaware
Posts: 43
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
Look at the wiring diagram, you will see that the Red/Yellow wire comes from both the front and rear brake lamp switch and goes to the brake lamp.

The Orange/White wire powers both brake light switches.

When either switch is made, the Red/Yellow wire will get power, illuminating the brake lamp.

So does that mean that both wires of the rear stop lamp switch should have voltage to them?
 
  #5  
Old 06-04-2022, 09:48 PM
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Dan89FLSTC is online now
Seasoned HDF Member

Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 18,508
Received 9,275 Likes on 4,946 Posts
Default

The Orange/White wire always has power.

The Red/Yellow wire will be energized when either brake switch is activated.
 
  #6  
Old 08-22-2022, 09:11 AM
Chally1's Avatar
Chally1
Chally1 is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Boxerguy...did you resolve this issue? If so what was the problem and how did you fix it?
 
  #7  
Old 08-22-2022, 10:42 AM
Boxerguy8888's Avatar
Boxerguy8888
Boxerguy8888 is offline
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Delaware
Posts: 43
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Chally1
Boxerguy...did you resolve this issue? If so what was the problem and how did you fix it?
I did resolve the issue! I replaced the rear brake switch but still had intermittent problems with it not lighting up when i hit the brakes. I also noticed intermittent issue of turn signals not working and when id hit the horn as soon as it engaged it would just cut out. I would pull the fuse for that stuff and it would "reset" and work again for a bit. While trying to track down a short thinking that was the cause I noticed when I was turning my switch from off to Ignition or Ignition to off it only had a very small area that it made proper connection, I could just barely touch it and it would lose connection. Going from Off to accessories was solid and lights and everything worked fine. So I took the Ignition switch apart and it was pretty nasty in there, old grease and green build up from the copper and just grit and grime was causing a bad connection. New aftermarket ones are about $30 but from what I was reading the tumbler for the key is different so you can't swap your original key tumbler over to the new one without modification, so would have to modify or use 1 key for Ignition and 1 for neck lock. I just cleaned mine out, gave the contact points a scrub with steel wool and some new dielectric grease and havnt had another problem with the lights. If you decide to do the same watch when you remove the C clip, they aren't under big pressure so won't fly all over but there are 3 springs in there. I'd rate it a 1 star out of 5 for difficulty. Easy fix once you track it down.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Boxerguy8888:
Chally1 (08-22-2022), Zedbra (08-23-2022)
  #8  
Old 08-22-2022, 07:33 PM
Chally1's Avatar
Chally1
Chally1 is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 12
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Wow...nice work figuring it out. I'll certainly keep this in mind when I attack my issue. Thanks!
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nick Sorgio
Shovelhead
9
09-30-2020 06:41 AM
MachU
Sportster Models
2
05-30-2014 11:50 AM
mikemock
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
9
07-07-2013 07:49 PM
maddghost
Dyna Glide Models
5
11-19-2012 04:52 AM
brwdarr
EVO
10
09-14-2011 07:01 PM



Quick Reply: Rear brake light switch question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:40 PM.