Turn signal wiring help
#1
Turn signal wiring help
Can anyone lend me some knowledge? Here’s the problem I’m trying to resolve.
i have a pair of Rizoma rear turn signals. 4 wire.
Black (ground)
white (running light)
red (brake light)
green (yellow turn signal light)
Now coming off the 2018 fat bob I have 4 wires going into a 3 wire plug. However the 4 wires are:
ground
running light
brake light (only)
turn signal light —-however this same wire activates the turn signal flasher, but also the brake light. Turn signal over rides the brake light on this wire.
So i need to find a way to hook up the green turn signal wire on the Rizoma to a turn signal only wire off the Harley. I tried connecting to the purple wire on the front turn signal, to see if it would get the rear signal to flash.. but nothing. Not sure why it isn’t working.
Thanks for any insight or help in advance...
i have a pair of Rizoma rear turn signals. 4 wire.
Black (ground)
white (running light)
red (brake light)
green (yellow turn signal light)
Now coming off the 2018 fat bob I have 4 wires going into a 3 wire plug. However the 4 wires are:
ground
running light
brake light (only)
turn signal light —-however this same wire activates the turn signal flasher, but also the brake light. Turn signal over rides the brake light on this wire.
So i need to find a way to hook up the green turn signal wire on the Rizoma to a turn signal only wire off the Harley. I tried connecting to the purple wire on the front turn signal, to see if it would get the rear signal to flash.. but nothing. Not sure why it isn’t working.
Thanks for any insight or help in advance...
#2
Ok so have been studying electrical diagrams etc and I think a solution to connect 3 wire to a 4 wire run/brake/turn signal would be:
ground to ground
running light to running light
split the purple turn signal/brake wire in two. One end go directly to the turn signal wire. The other wire in diode in line then continue to the brake light.
Does this sound correct?
ground to ground
running light to running light
split the purple turn signal/brake wire in two. One end go directly to the turn signal wire. The other wire in diode in line then continue to the brake light.
Does this sound correct?
#3
if i am following correctly, if you split the wire and add a diode, it will not work. the diode is a one way valve so to speak so if inline, even though split, it sees one wire or voltage source.
i would have to see if i have the schematic. if i have the info, will look but without it i will throw this out. if you find the source be it a tsm or like, find the out put wire for each side and connect to there.
i would have to see if i have the schematic. if i have the info, will look but without it i will throw this out. if you find the source be it a tsm or like, find the out put wire for each side and connect to there.
#4
Thanks for replaying. I tried the diode and it did not work, as you stated.
Seems my only option is to find a dedicated turn signal wire OR possibly have Harley reprogram the BCM. I’d rather find a dedicated turn signal wire.
Any idea why trying to jump off the front turn signal wires aren’t working?
Seems my only option is to find a dedicated turn signal wire OR possibly have Harley reprogram the BCM. I’d rather find a dedicated turn signal wire.
Any idea why trying to jump off the front turn signal wires aren’t working?
#5
#6
I spoke to Harley yesterday and the technician told me I can change the setting in the BCM.. so it would function as it would on a 2018 low rider. i would rather find a dedicated turn signal wire but that may not be possible
waiting on a call back from the dealership.
#7
It doesn't exist. The rear brake and turn signal are using the same wire through the Turn signal control.
Unless you try bringing a wire from the fronts to the rear greens on their respective lights.
This could potentially work as long as the internal connections of the new light aren't connected,
because then the fronts would get bright whenever you hit the brakes.
You'll have to bench test it. Seems like alot of trouble to go through for no reason..
Unless you try bringing a wire from the fronts to the rear greens on their respective lights.
This could potentially work as long as the internal connections of the new light aren't connected,
because then the fronts would get bright whenever you hit the brakes.
You'll have to bench test it. Seems like alot of trouble to go through for no reason..
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#8
Mount the new light, tap a wire to the front turn signal wires and connect them to the greens.
Then a wire to the rear tail light for the brakes to the red wires of the new lights because the existing wires are brake/turn.
You would be abandoning the existing control wires from the turn module.
Worse case, you connect it like I said in post #5.
Then a wire to the rear tail light for the brakes to the red wires of the new lights because the existing wires are brake/turn.
You would be abandoning the existing control wires from the turn module.
Worse case, you connect it like I said in post #5.
Last edited by RANGER73; 04-27-2019 at 10:46 AM.
#9
Mount the new light, tap a wire to the front turn signal wires and connect them to the greens.
Then a wire to the rear tail light for the brakes to the red wires of the new lights because the existing wires are brake/turn.
You would be abandoning the existing control wires from the turn module.
Worse case, you connect it like I said in post #5.
Then a wire to the rear tail light for the brakes to the red wires of the new lights because the existing wires are brake/turn.
You would be abandoning the existing control wires from the turn module.
Worse case, you connect it like I said in post #5.
It’s like it’s getting no power off the front purple wire, even though the front one is...
#10