Make sure the TSM is unplugged if you go toward the bike side of the connector.

Probably won`t hurt anything, but why take a chance...

 

First off, let me say many thanks to you guys for spending a lot of time with me today. I really appreciate it, and I feel a learned a few things today. Still have the problem, but working close to figuring it out.


I have a brn/wht but no red/blue

 

No problem, we enjoy helping people who appreciate it.
Sorry not red and blue, it is r-be so red and beigh. (Brain fa....)
It will be pin 2,
W-bn will be pin 5
And yea to what Dan said about unplugging tsm if you check that side.

 

Morning Gents, Ok, so I tried checking the handle bar side plug this morning before I head off to exchange time for money.
My number 2 pin is Red w/yellow stripe. So I set the meter to "beep" touched the brown/white prong and then the red/yellow one..nothing. Tried doing any and all of the prongs and no beep. I'm going to assume the ignition does not need to be on since there's no power going to the plug.
Something should be happening cuz I'm kind of "closing" the circuit?

 

That tells us that those two wires are not touching.
Unplug the tsm and check the same two wires on the other side of that connector.

 

Ok, I will buy that, but a couple Q's:
1) If touch any other combination, will it make the meter beep?
2) Does the ignition need to be on when checking the "bike" side?


Scratch the above...


I have a reading on the bike side. Nothing on the handle bar side... Crap!

 

1 those are the only tw that we car about, it depend on where the other wires go to on if they are joined or what condition they are joined. But usally should not be joined.
2 no you do not want the ignition on.
When I get some time latter I will explain a little better what we are doing, it is just as important that you learn as well as fixing the problem.

 

Let me explain what we are trying to figure out.
Here is a schematic for the r handle bars.
Maybe Dan can see something I am missing.



Think of a schematic as a road map, and think of the current like flowing water or a car driving on the map.
You might want to print this out and follow it with a marking pin.
You can see the turn and brake are fed by the orange and white wire.
The juice goes through the brake switch and back out the red and be
The turn comes in to the switch with the orange and white out the switch the white and bn.
The tsm, tssm is more of a computer than a mechanical switch like we like to think of.

Here is the schematic for that.



Between the two are a connector and wires going from the front to wherever the tsm is.
The two wires separate someplace inside this cable of wires.
You can see the white and br wire comes into the tsm from the right turn. It gets just a momentary signal from the switch as it is pushed.
This turns on the turn.
If it gets another signal from the switch then the tsm turns the light off.
Somewhere we are getting a false signal to the tsm when the brake is pushed. It thinks it is getting a signal from the r turn switch.
This is why when the left signal is on and the brake light goes on it cancels the left and puts on the right.
When I had you check for continuity between the r/be and the w/bn there should not be any continuity unless the wires are shorted together. (Yea I know.)
This is what we are looking for to find where the wires are connected.
When you found no continuity between the two wires and the handle bar then we know that it is not cutting into it and causing the short between the two like is suggested.
I would try testing the handlebar side again, this time pulling the brake lever in.
Yea no need to turn on the key.
Right now do not know what to tell you, study this and see if what I am saying makes since maybe Dan has some input.
Maybe something in the switch housing itself that I am missing, can’t see.

 

What do you mean you have a reading?

Tell us exactly what you are doing so we are all on the same page.

 

Wow! you guys are awesome! Great info...and a lot of it.


So far what I have down was take the tester, switch it to the "beep" mode.
Test the brown/white and the red on the handlebar side. Nothing happens. even when I push the brake switch in and out
Test what looks like the same wires on the "bike" side and the meter is reading 15-16 with the TSM unplugged.
I thought this meant that the tester was completing the circuit on the bike side, but not on the handle bar side because of a break somewhere in the bars. Correct? or am I off track