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Old 01-20-2007 | 01:29 PM
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Old 01-20-2007 | 01:39 PM
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Not a huge savings, but the 35th anniversary SG is a nice looking bike
Did you notice that the 35th anniversarylooks just about the same bike as 2007 SuperGlide Custom? 35 anniversary have even more chrome. Beside of that seems that the engine is the only difference.
 
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Old 01-20-2007 | 02:27 PM
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This is a funny post, all these "there's not that much difference" answers[sm=teetertooter.gif].
I am new to Harleys, but not bikes or engines so take this how you want but if there is something I am wrong on feel free to correct me.

When there was only the 88ci building a 95ci was the $hit basicly just add juggs, then if you wanted bigger you had to do lower end work and that is where the real work is done stroking the motor and spending the money to do it.
Now here is the funny part, Harley does all the low end work and makes it a stroked 96ci but now it's not that different.
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Another one of those things thats not that different, is now you can go to 103ci by basicly just add juggs, and 110ci which is what you asked about by doing juggs and heads.

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Old 01-20-2007 | 03:17 PM
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I was looking at a 2007 Super Glide Custom and the dealer is willing to let an '06 go at an agressive number.
I would go for the stroked 96 in the 07 definately.........
 
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Old 01-20-2007 | 03:26 PM
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Never rode a 96 but from what I have been told the real diff is the tranny. The 6 speed is killer....I was also told you can upgrade the 5 spd but figure its for mucho deniro....
The 2006 Dynas come with the six speed tranny.
I love you guys giving advise on picking the '07 over the '06 because of the tranny... As Speed said -the '06 Dyna came with the six speed. In my opinion, the 88 with Stage 1 gives you plenty of oomph. With the head restriction, Stage 1 on a 96 is only gonna get you minor improvement over Stage 1 on an 88 (the heads are the weak flow point). So if you can save 2G and put 500 or 600 towards the Stage 1, take it and run. If you feel you're gonna need more power, than the '07 makes more sense, cause you can do cams and heads without doin jugs and get a 96 motor with *****.
 
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Old 01-20-2007 | 03:37 PM
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" TheEPA was the main reason for the '07 96",, In Harleys efforts to comply with the new Federal EPA regulationsa basic EPA'd 88" engine that would be on the '07, would be a much weaker motor than the '06 was. Now Harley isnt going to release a 'new model year' that isn't as good as the previous year. Hence the 96" was their solution. Inch for inch the 96" should be a a noticeably stronger motor,, however we dont know for sure what the EPA did to it.. The good news for all is those with 95" kits in their 06' 88"ers, and those who can deregulate their 07' 96"ers both will have great motors with not much differance, assuming the 07's can be deregulated with normal upgrades , older SE pipes, SE breathers, Sert or PC III, etc. ( no reason to think it cant) problem might be at state inspection time...
Back to original question, stock 88' or stock 96',, look at the numbers not much differance..
 
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Old 01-20-2007 | 04:08 PM
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Often magazine articles/reviews are brought up in these discussions (as one was posted above...which I haven't read yet by the way..so I'm not responding to this particular article per say)....lets not forget, HD (and all the other brands) pay the magazines big money for advertising...In return, the magazines are going to hype new models, technology, etc. It's amazing how quick the magazines forgot the 06 dyna line....that was yesterday's news....and when they talk about the new TC 96 and all the other upgrades that come with 07s, they almost seem to purposely avoid the fact that 06 dynas got all the upgrades last year. To their defense, dynas aren't the most popular harleys....so hyping the softails and touring models is only natural...and this is their big year.
The fact is this...06 dynas had their big year last year....and this year's upgraded 96" engine is really just that...a displacement upgrade...that's all. They received all the other 07 upgrades...including engine and transmission modifications in 06. That's not to say that the 07s haven't had some bugs already worked out...which weren't originally worked out in 06 (i.e. injectors, primary bearing, etc). The only other real difference was that the transmission gear ratios were slightly modified to compensate for the displacement increase. But the bottom line is, the 06 dyna line was pretty much the test platform for the 07 upgrades across the boards. HD has done this in the past....even with the original twin cam 88.

As it has been said....the performance differences are going to be negligible...especially if you are willing to spend 2 to 3 hundred dollars extra and get the stage one and a set of slip-ons. But if performance isn't the biggest concern, and you're more concerned with just having the latest technology in terms of engine/transmission, (i.e. six speed, oil cooling/flow, etc) then the 06 dyna is essentially the same thing.

Personally, I would spend the extra cash and get an 07...but that's just me...I prefer to always have the newest stuff....basically, I like to say I have the latest model. Hell....if I hadn't spent so much money on upgrades for my bike, I'd probably trade up every year To some it's not as important...and if you're on a tight budget, the 06 will be just fine...and you will essentially have an 07 minus the displacement. Now if the dealer was offering money off on an 05 or earlier dyna....then that would be a different story...because those bikes did not have the upgraded engine/transmission.

So while you will get many different opinions here...this is a fact..the only real difference between an 06 and 07 in terms of engineering is in cubic inches of displacement. Is it worth the money?....only you can decide that.

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Old 01-20-2007 | 04:12 PM
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Stage 1 on a 96 is only gonna get you minor improvement
Street Bob 07, ONLY modifications SE exhaust and air; Dyno result +12hp with out any programming… Is it minor?

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Old 01-20-2007 | 04:38 PM
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2007 SG Custom OTD at $15,272.

35th anniversary SG's I can get OTD for $14,500.00
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there $ 772 cap between 07 and 06? If you visit a car dealer in September would the difference be like five times more?

I agree 35 anniversary is a nice bike; lot’s like 07 SGC but if you upgrade the 35 anniversary to stage 1 to get “even” is there any price cap anymore? Then you have quite similar bikes, but the other one is still one year older in terms of resale value.

Here I assume that the complete rebuild engine is only in the level where the old one was, but who knows. Also I have to say I would be happy for either one, I just don’t have anything else to do at the moment so I’m happy to argue ;-)
 
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Old 01-20-2007 | 04:57 PM
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2007 SG Custom OTD at $15,272.

35th anniversary SG's I can get OTD for $14,500.00
Correct me if I'm wrong but is there $ 772 cap between 07 and 06? If you visit a car dealer in September would the difference be like five times more?

I agree 35 anniversary is a nice bike; lot’s like 07 SGC but if you upgrade the 35 anniversary to stage 1 to get “even” is there any price cap anymore? Then you have quite similar bikes, but the other one is still one year older in terms of resale value.

Here I assume that the complete rebuild engine is only in the level where the old one was, but who knows. Also I have to say I would be happy for either one, I just don’t have anything else to do at the moment so I’m happy to argue ;-)
You make an excellent point here. I think that even if I got into the '06 35th anniv. bike at $14k OTD, I would still be better off with an '07 SG Custom.

Thanks for all of the input.
 



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