I know the stock apes are 10", but is that with riser included or is the real height 12"s with the risers? I am trying to figure out whats comfortable or guess at what might be the best size to get. Lastly to most of you guys get a smaller riser with the apes to show off the bars more than the riser?

 

I still have the stock 2 inchers on my bike with 16's.......wanting to get 4 inch risers just so the risers and the dash is more even

 

I got 12" with 2" risers - real comfortable for me - you should try a mock up to find out what is best for you

 

The bars are 10 alone. So 12 with the risers I suppose.