Dyna's with 103" builds...I'm joining the club!
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#12
Red Devil,
What cams are you running now and how do they compare for better and worse with the 255's?
I did some searching on this site for mileage and cams and most people are getting in the 40's mpg-wise no matter what they're doing it seems...however there were a few that were getting high 20's and 30's with the SE 211 but all seemed to agree in previous discussions this was a tuning issue.
On a more important note, I feel like the tech guy I spoke with at the dealer that seemed to be offering the "best" deal is trying to make money instead of make a straight deal.
He was quoting me $2600 for the 103 w/ SE 211 cams and I already have pipes and a heavy breather intake. He said I NEEDED to have a manual compression release on each head and new valve springs for the higher lift cam.
Unless I was overlooking something, all the builds I've read about w/ SE 211 cams, no matter if it was on the factory 96" or a big bore kit 103" (wouldn't matter either way, same heads are being used) I haven't read of people NEEDING compression releases and new springs. In fact, that setup from a few individuals who commented on their own, was chosen because they didn't need these things.
Thoughts on this attempted sale?
I'm about to call another tech guy at another dealer and talk to him...or just get in face to face and see what's up.
What cams are you running now and how do they compare for better and worse with the 255's?
I did some searching on this site for mileage and cams and most people are getting in the 40's mpg-wise no matter what they're doing it seems...however there were a few that were getting high 20's and 30's with the SE 211 but all seemed to agree in previous discussions this was a tuning issue.
On a more important note, I feel like the tech guy I spoke with at the dealer that seemed to be offering the "best" deal is trying to make money instead of make a straight deal.
He was quoting me $2600 for the 103 w/ SE 211 cams and I already have pipes and a heavy breather intake. He said I NEEDED to have a manual compression release on each head and new valve springs for the higher lift cam.
Unless I was overlooking something, all the builds I've read about w/ SE 211 cams, no matter if it was on the factory 96" or a big bore kit 103" (wouldn't matter either way, same heads are being used) I haven't read of people NEEDING compression releases and new springs. In fact, that setup from a few individuals who commented on their own, was chosen because they didn't need these things.
Thoughts on this attempted sale?
I'm about to call another tech guy at another dealer and talk to him...or just get in face to face and see what's up.
#13
Find another tech. You don't need springs,the 211's are .508 lift and plenty of people are running .575 on stock springs. I'm at .541 with no problem. I didn't go with compression releases either, instead I kept it a little lower @ 9.75:1 & 9.06 corrected, the quality of fuel will be taking a dive again soon so building a high comp engine just didn't make sense to me. They don't like the FL heat either.
#14
Another expert on SE cams. Have you run them, or you just going from what you heard. It is a reliable cam and I run 107 ft/lbs of torque at 2500rpm. Its a good low end cam which runs out in the high 4000rpm range which I never run anyway as I seldom take the bike over 3500 rpms don't need to.
#15
I have 211's in a 103 with 10.1 compression pistons. It's a big 2007 Road Glide with PC V and SE slip on mufflers(the quiet ones). I get around low 40's on mileage even with that big bike and fairing lowers. It has enough torque to pull the front wheel off the ground a few inches. Can't see how a lighter dyna wouldn't get upper 40's. My 95" carbed superglide gets 51 MPG average if ridden sanely. The 211's in a 103 also have a hot rod loping kind of sound. Since you already have a PCV why not get the auto-tune modules? They give you a better "custom tune" than you would get from a dyno tuner.
#17
Red Devil,
What cams are you running now and how do they compare for better and worse with the 255's?
I did some searching on this site for mileage and cams and most people are getting in the 40's mpg-wise no matter what they're doing it seems...however there were a few that were getting high 20's and 30's with the SE 211 but all seemed to agree in previous discussions this was a tuning issue.
On a more important note, I feel like the tech guy I spoke with at the dealer that seemed to be offering the "best" deal is trying to make money instead of make a straight deal.
He was quoting me $2600 for the 103 w/ SE 211 cams and I already have pipes and a heavy breather intake. He said I NEEDED to have a manual compression release on each head and new valve springs for the higher lift cam.
Unless I was overlooking something, all the builds I've read about w/ SE 211 cams, no matter if it was on the factory 96" or a big bore kit 103" (wouldn't matter either way, same heads are being used) I haven't read of people NEEDING compression releases and new springs. In fact, that setup from a few individuals who commented on their own, was chosen because they didn't need these things.
Thoughts on this attempted sale?
I'm about to call another tech guy at another dealer and talk to him...or just get in face to face and see what's up.
What cams are you running now and how do they compare for better and worse with the 255's?
I did some searching on this site for mileage and cams and most people are getting in the 40's mpg-wise no matter what they're doing it seems...however there were a few that were getting high 20's and 30's with the SE 211 but all seemed to agree in previous discussions this was a tuning issue.
On a more important note, I feel like the tech guy I spoke with at the dealer that seemed to be offering the "best" deal is trying to make money instead of make a straight deal.
He was quoting me $2600 for the 103 w/ SE 211 cams and I already have pipes and a heavy breather intake. He said I NEEDED to have a manual compression release on each head and new valve springs for the higher lift cam.
Unless I was overlooking something, all the builds I've read about w/ SE 211 cams, no matter if it was on the factory 96" or a big bore kit 103" (wouldn't matter either way, same heads are being used) I haven't read of people NEEDING compression releases and new springs. In fact, that setup from a few individuals who commented on their own, was chosen because they didn't need these things.
Thoughts on this attempted sale?
I'm about to call another tech guy at another dealer and talk to him...or just get in face to face and see what's up.
#18
You still have not explained "garbage" and did I get your handle wrong and you are a "genius" give the OP some information they can use not a general opinion with no back up. eg. I installed them and they attracted the local garbage collector could not get rid of the collector until I uninstalled them.