Ground wire on upper tripple tree to Riser Bolt...DO I NEED IT?
#12
Ground wires don't normally "do" anything. They're there for when a wire gets nicked/pinched/pulled loose or otherwise comes in contact with metal that it shouldn't. If the ground wire is there, you simply blow a fuse and something stops working. If the ground wire is gone, your handlebar becomes "hot" and strange things can happen.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
#13
Ground wires don't normally "do" anything. They're there for when a wire gets nicked/pinched/pulled loose or otherwise comes in contact with metal that it shouldn't. If the ground wire is there, you simply blow a fuse and something stops working. If the ground wire is gone, your handlebar becomes "hot" and strange things can happen.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
If for instance you did not ground the turn signal housing (one side of the lamp) somehow, you could apply all the power you want to the lamp and it would not light.
Actually it's not even true technically speaking in an AC system since you have to have a neutral, which is technically a "grounded conductor". The ground wire as we all know it is a "grounding conductor". The hot wire is known as the "ungrounded conductor".
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The front end needs to have a seperate ground to the frame. I believe there is a ground in the wiring harness that goes to the hand controls on the handlebars, but most handlebars are rubber mounted.
Not kidding about this, if there is no seperate ground the ground will go through the steering bearings and there is potential for premature bearing failure.
Not kidding about this, if there is no seperate ground the ground will go through the steering bearings and there is potential for premature bearing failure.
#17
I haven't examined the entire wiring diagram but my short answer would by "yes". That said, pull it off and see what does and doesn't work. If everything seems good, tape over the exposed connector and go take a ride. If it all still works, you should be good eliminating it.
Personally, I'd look for some place to re-route it. Hide it under the tank or down on the front downtubes of the frame, something like that. I figure the MoCo didnt spend the money to put it on unless they thought it was needed.
Personally, I'd look for some place to re-route it. Hide it under the tank or down on the front downtubes of the frame, something like that. I figure the MoCo didnt spend the money to put it on unless they thought it was needed.
Ground wires don't normally "do" anything. They're there for when a (hot) wire gets nicked/pinched/pulled loose or otherwise comes in contact with metal that it shouldn't. If the ground wire is there, you simply blow a fuse and something stops working. If the ground wire is gone, your handlebar becomes "hot" and strange things can happen.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
I make my living designing electrical control systems for industrial machinery and I believe in ground wires.
The 'grounding' wire in question is not & will not do 'anything' UNTIL a 'hot' wire from the hand controls "comes in contact with the bars".
If this happens the grond wire in question WILL complete the curcuit to ground which SHOULD blow a fuse which is there to protect the wiring from becoming overloaded and/or keep you from receiving an electrical shock.
Yes, the wire IS required as an inherant design in the electrical system. Whenever an individual item is present in the design of a completed unit it's usally there for a reason.
Yes, if you leave it off... nothing will happen... UNTIL it needs to be there!
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air... rather than being in the air wishing you were on the ground.
#18
Murphdog is exactly right. Thes other posters are partialy right.
The 'grounding' wire in question is not & will not do 'anything' UNTIL a 'hot' wire from the hand controls "comes in contact with the bars".
If this happens the grond wire in question WILL complete the curcuit to ground which SHOULD blow a fuse which is there to protect the wiring from becoming overloaded and/or keep you from receiving an electrical shock.
Yes, the wire IS required as an inherant design in the electrical system. Whenever an individual item is present in the design of a completed unit it's usally there for a reason.
Yes, if you leave it off... nothing will happen... UNTIL it needs to be there!
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air... rather than being in the air wishing you were on the ground.
The 'grounding' wire in question is not & will not do 'anything' UNTIL a 'hot' wire from the hand controls "comes in contact with the bars".
If this happens the grond wire in question WILL complete the curcuit to ground which SHOULD blow a fuse which is there to protect the wiring from becoming overloaded and/or keep you from receiving an electrical shock.
Yes, the wire IS required as an inherant design in the electrical system. Whenever an individual item is present in the design of a completed unit it's usally there for a reason.
Yes, if you leave it off... nothing will happen... UNTIL it needs to be there!
It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air... rather than being in the air wishing you were on the ground.
#19
You are saying it will not complete the circuit till connected to the ground on the battery. You are correct too.
No pinched wires all working as should a Volt meter will read 0 volts battery ground to bars. Murphdog is saying if you have a shorted wire to bars and no ground you will read voltage from battery ground to bars and he is correct.
Now if there is a direct path to ground (ground wire, etc) it will/should blow the fuse making the problem obvious or more obvious.
#20
This is true in an AC systems, NOT in a DC system such as you have on a bike. Without a ground (negative from the battery) nothing works, since you don't have a complete circuit.
If for instance you did not ground the turn signal housing (one side of the lamp) somehow, you could apply all the power you want to the lamp and it would not light.
Actually it's not even true technically speaking in an AC system since you have to have a neutral, which is technically a "grounded conductor". The ground wire as we all know it is a "grounding conductor". The hot wire is known as the "ungrounded conductor".
If for instance you did not ground the turn signal housing (one side of the lamp) somehow, you could apply all the power you want to the lamp and it would not light.
Actually it's not even true technically speaking in an AC system since you have to have a neutral, which is technically a "grounded conductor". The ground wire as we all know it is a "grounding conductor". The hot wire is known as the "ungrounded conductor".