True Track????
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04-06-2010, 04:50 PM
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Apples and oranges comparing what a true trac or like component to shocks. I am not saying that adding Ohlin shocks will not net a better feel then installing the true track. I am saying they are different components doing different jobs and is not a comparison.
For instance I shoe horned a 200mm tire onto my WG and clearance is tight. When a motor mount fails things start moving more then they should and such the rear tire starts to rub. Ohlin shocks are not going to keep the play out and limit the amount of movement as the True Track will.
That said motor mounts need to be inspected regularly even with a True Track or similar device.
For instance I shoe horned a 200mm tire onto my WG and clearance is tight. When a motor mount fails things start moving more then they should and such the rear tire starts to rub. Ohlin shocks are not going to keep the play out and limit the amount of movement as the True Track will.
That said motor mounts need to be inspected regularly even with a True Track or similar device.
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04-06-2010, 05:45 PM
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#25
04-07-2010, 12:49 AM
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Show your dealer the website at TrueTrack and either buy it yourself or have them make the purchase unless they are going to mark it up too much.
Either way, the install should take one hour of labor for both the front and rear.
I will say that aftermarket shocks, with the exception of Progressives, will make a noticeable improvement in ride quality but considering they are rubber mounted to both the frame and swingarm, it isn't reasonable to think they will decrease lateral movement of the drivetrain which is what the Truetrack is designed to address.
Either way, the install should take one hour of labor for both the front and rear.
I will say that aftermarket shocks, with the exception of Progressives, will make a noticeable improvement in ride quality but considering they are rubber mounted to both the frame and swingarm, it isn't reasonable to think they will decrease lateral movement of the drivetrain which is what the Truetrack is designed to address.
BTW, my Ducati is equipped with high end Ohlins front and rear, so I do have a comparison with high quality suspension components.
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04-07-2010, 03:45 AM
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#27
04-07-2010, 05:53 AM
Actually it does. With the addition of a beefier performance shock, it will reduce the amount of lateral leverage put on the swingarm. I don't think it will eliminate it completely, but it will reduce it substancially. If your ultimate plan for suspension only goes as high as Progressive shocks, then definately get a TT or Sputhe. If your plan is for performance suspension, then do the shocks FIRST. It may save you some money!
That would be like holding a snake by the ends and telling us it can't bend in the middle.
#28
04-07-2010, 06:46 AM
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Unless you have taken the rubber bushings out of the shocks and replaced them with something solid like poly, brass or steel you haven't done anything to address lateral stability.
That would be like holding a snake by the ends and telling us it can't bend in the middle.
That would be like holding a snake by the ends and telling us it can't bend in the middle.
I am reading the 25th Anniversary Buell book, in which is made clear that a rubber-mount engine like Buells and Harleys NEEDS three stabilizers. That is why Erik patented his system, used on every Buell and current Sportsters. Dynas have only one. Fit the other two, THEN the bike is fit and ready for better shocks!
If Harley built all their rubber-mounts with a full set they would be far superior bikes.
#29
04-07-2010, 07:04 AM
Well put!
I am reading the 25th Anniversary Buell book, in which is made clear that a rubber-mount engine like Buells and Harleys NEEDS three stabilizers. That is why Erik patented his system, used on every Buell and current Sportsters. Dynas have only one. Fit the other two, THEN the bike is fit and ready for better shocks!
If Harley built all their rubber-mounts with a full set they would be far superior bikes.
I am reading the 25th Anniversary Buell book, in which is made clear that a rubber-mount engine like Buells and Harleys NEEDS three stabilizers. That is why Erik patented his system, used on every Buell and current Sportsters. Dynas have only one. Fit the other two, THEN the bike is fit and ready for better shocks!
If Harley built all their rubber-mounts with a full set they would be far superior bikes.
I honestly don't understand these folks that want to talk about suspension upgrades as an alternative to stabilizers, as someone mentioned earlier - apples/oranges....
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04-07-2010, 08:14 AM
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BTW, the rubber bushings in my Ohlins are signifantly smaller than stock.