I agree 100% with you there. i will not buy another gm product!!

car and MC companies contract out things out to be built,machined, sub assembled by there suppliers. say you contract someone to make bearings for you and you agree on $50 per 1000 bearings. your under contract with each other and have a set price right, well what if the guy making your bearings starts making the ***** in the bearings just a bit smaller to save on metal cost, or any number of ways that corners can be cut to improve their profit. Harley just like all the car manufactuers can't police all their suppliers. but they are responseable for the end product.
everything on your list except #4 are supplier issues.

 

Sure there are some issues with some HD but so are there with Suzuki, Ford, Chevy, Honda....Maybe you just have isolated issue, hell you may have a "LEMON"...cold it be...I have have the least issues of my 2 HD in 4 years and 55000 miles than any other vehicles....Sorry to hear about your troubles and i hope it's something simple.

 

Just read these forums dude... and I guarantee you nobody is makin **** up.
It's real.
When or if (and I hope it doesn't happen) that your bike has a shitload of problems, you will feel the same thing everyone else does.

Till then, you're gonna love your trouble free bike.

that's what i would love...a trouble free bike...

too bad I don't have one.

but good for you.

and as I said in the earlier post.. there is no warranty.

I changed all fluids at 3K when I got the bike. Amsoil 20-50 in all three holes.
Correct amounts added.
No leaks.

As far as complaining goes, I paid good damn money and I want a good damn bike... not too much to ask.....unless "american made" bikes are an exception to the rule and we should just pay twice as much and get half the quality and not say a word while we dish out more money to the same ******** that overcharge us in the first place. here's a picture of them lookin at us.

 

I agree 100% with what you are saying/feeling. When you pay more, you should get/expect better ! My '07 was just fixed last week for an inner primary seal. It was leaking oil from around the front drive belt pulley. Now when I shift into 6th gear I am getting a weird vibration. Like a BIG vibration. No noise to speak of, just the vibration. I;m beginning to think that I bought the wrong brand too.

 

Okay we hear your message, you paid good money for your bike and you expect a good bike for it. Have you popped off the primary to see if any thing is amiss in there? If you don't have the manual maybe you local library has a clymer on the shelf and you can copy the pages you might need. Have you checked all your wire connections to the starter for loose or corroded connectors? Alot of people here want to help get your bike up to snuff but you need to help yourself, now let's roll up our sleeves.

 

I think the point is, that, we shouldn't have to. Paying as much as one does for this brand, and then having to wrench on it to fix it kind of irritates you. Wrenching on a bike to customize it is great, fixing it.... not so much.

 

...+1...

 

Well, if Harley expects to survive in the Bike Market, they're going to have to address the Quality issues or they'll go under. GM waited too long to take the Japanese threat to the American auto market seriously. Now you have several bike makers like Victory, Star & Boulevard coming along to challenge Harley's market. NAME ONLY will not keep you out of Bankruptcy court anymore. Producing a Quality product at ANY price will.
Look at Lexus..... Exceptional quality and higher than average price......but people are willing to pay for it, without hesitation.
Harley has to quit importing crap MADE IN CHINA parts and look to local mfg's here in the U.S.A. to put American's back to work. Last I knew CHEAP DOESNT (usually) EQUAL QUALITY.

 

+1. I work for a car dealer and the problem is everywhere today no matter what you buy, all suppliers want to make more money and they keep making parts cheaper and they fail, all for making more profit. I see it everyday. High priced BMWs have stupid issues today and they cost a lot more than a Harley

 

I think the thread on the Tink sound describes what I'm talking about a whole lot.....
not the starter button or brake issue, but the engine sounds.

Here's a link if interested. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...g-noise-9.html