Screaming Eagle Heavy Breather.............
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This looks like it's pretty close to the heavy breather filter.
http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RC-4160
http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RC-4160
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This looks like it's pretty close to the heavy breather filter.
http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RC-4160
http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...x?Prod=RC-4160
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So your sayin that heavy breather blows away a stage 1 (k&n) in performance? I seriously doubt it! I really like the looks of it, don't take this the wrong way but to say it has alot more power is crazy! You'd have to get in the motor to make that much of a difference.
My dad installed one on his road glide (carb bike) and when summer came closer he started having pinging issues (switched from K&N setup). So we figured a tune was in order. Took the bike to a very reputible tuner in the area and after a couple hours on the dyno some things were discovered.
1. The engine had too high compression for the cams---bad build? (not by us!)
2. The engine needed a bigger jet than a 240....on a 44cv, 95"engine! to keep from running lean and pinging.
3. Front and rear cylinders have a huge afr difference. Compression test shows exactly same compression.
Tunner suggested.....Get rid of the SE heavy breather! Air and fuel getting rammed into front cylinder while rear cylinder was lean...Seems the air was making the 90* turn into the carb and kept trying to continue its curving path right into the front cylinder blowing right past the rear.
Installed SE K&N style filter setup and AFr's front to rear were almost exactly the same. Rejetted the carb and with octane booster...no pinging and runs a ton better!!
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I agree 100%
My dad installed one on his road glide (carb bike) and when summer came closer he started having pinging issues (switched from K&N setup). So we figured a tune was in order. Took the bike to a very reputible tuner in the area and after a couple hours on the dyno some things were discovered.
1. The engine had too high compression for the cams---bad build? (not by us!)
2. The engine needed a bigger jet than a 240....on a 44cv, 95"engine! to keep from running lean and pinging.
3. Front and rear cylinders have a huge afr difference. Compression test shows exactly same compression.
Tunner suggested.....Get rid of the SE heavy breather! Air and fuel getting rammed into front cylinder while rear cylinder was lean...Seems the air was making the 90* turn into the carb and kept trying to continue its curving path right into the front cylinder blowing right past the rear.
Installed SE K&N style filter setup and AFr's front to rear were almost exactly the same. Rejetted the carb and with octane booster...no pinging and runs a ton better!!
My dad installed one on his road glide (carb bike) and when summer came closer he started having pinging issues (switched from K&N setup). So we figured a tune was in order. Took the bike to a very reputible tuner in the area and after a couple hours on the dyno some things were discovered.
1. The engine had too high compression for the cams---bad build? (not by us!)
2. The engine needed a bigger jet than a 240....on a 44cv, 95"engine! to keep from running lean and pinging.
3. Front and rear cylinders have a huge afr difference. Compression test shows exactly same compression.
Tunner suggested.....Get rid of the SE heavy breather! Air and fuel getting rammed into front cylinder while rear cylinder was lean...Seems the air was making the 90* turn into the carb and kept trying to continue its curving path right into the front cylinder blowing right past the rear.
Installed SE K&N style filter setup and AFr's front to rear were almost exactly the same. Rejetted the carb and with octane booster...no pinging and runs a ton better!!
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Yeah, that's the one, Vic. I got tunnel vision just looking at the 2.5" flange diameter units, and missed that near-exact fit just a few rows up the table...nice catch. They say the flange will stretch about 1/16", so the 2.44" flange size would be just right. Those oval tapers I linked to might look pretty sweet.
The stock HB element has the chrome base/flange cover; I didn't look to see if this might be transferrable to one of the K&N's that look like they have a plain, black rubber base/flange. If so, that would be a big incentive to replace with the one you found over the oval taper element.
The stock HB element has the chrome base/flange cover; I didn't look to see if this might be transferrable to one of the K&N's that look like they have a plain, black rubber base/flange. If so, that would be a big incentive to replace with the one you found over the oval taper element.
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