Can my bike be put on a dyno
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RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
I don't want to upset anyone, but the fuelpak is kind of a joke. It's just a crutch to get you through. With a sert or PCIII USB (which I have) You can do more fine tuning and actually get it closer toright. If I'm wrong .. Please feel free to set me straight. I took my FuelPak off though.
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12-05-2007, 07:20 AM
RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
ORIGINAL: abcd9906
I don't want to upset anyone, but the fuelpak is kind of a joke. It's just a crutch to get you through. With a sert or PCIII USB (which I have) You can do more fine tuning and actually get it closer toright. If I'm wrong .. Please feel free to set me straight. I took my FuelPak off though.
I don't want to upset anyone, but the fuelpak is kind of a joke. It's just a crutch to get you through. With a sert or PCIII USB (which I have) You can do more fine tuning and actually get it closer toright. If I'm wrong .. Please feel free to set me straight. I took my FuelPak off though.
Fuelpak leaves the diagnostic plug for the stock ecm exposed so the bike can still be run on a dyno. However, keep in mind that you don't "tune" a fuelpak, you program it with supplied codes for your setup/config. So, if you change that config or the dealer does, the fuelpak may not be able to do its job because it's no longer compatible with the ecm settings that were there. Fuelpak supplies codes for a given pipe make/model and assumes a high-flow a/c but does give different settings depending on whether or not you are running the ecm stock or if you've had a model HD download to the ecm. But, that's about it.
If you truly want to fine tune your bike on a dyno, go with a PCIII minimum, or a SERT.
All I wanted out of my engine was to free it up and make it sound better with stage 1 while maintaining a decent air/fuel mix to prevent damage to the engine. I care nothing about going further than that. So, fuelpak was all I needed and not a joke to me. If I ever had any plans to go further, I wouldn't have bought the fuelpak to begin with.
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12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
ORIGINAL: 2007fxdc
I disagree that it's a "joke" but agree that it's basically a crutch - if you want to use that word. However, if just getting through is what you are after, like I was, there is nothing wrong with it. A fuelpak is fine for a typical stage 1 to be sure you are getting the right air/fuel mix on your efi. If you want to do more than that, it's not the way to go.
Fuelpak leaves the diagnostic plug for the stock ecm exposed so the bike can still be run on a dyno. However, keep in mind that you don't "tune" a fuelpak, you program it with supplied codes for your setup/config. So, if you change that config or the dealer does, the fuelpak may not be able to do its job because it's no longer compatible with the ecm settings that were there. Fuelpak supplies codes for a given pipe make/model and assumes a high-flow a/c but does give different settings depending on whether or not you are running the ecm stock or if you've had a model HD download to the ecm. But, that's about it.
If you truly want to fine tune your bike on a dyno, go with a PCIII minimum, or a SERT.
All I wanted out of my engine was to free it up and make it sound better with stage 1 while maintaining a decent air/fuel mix to prevent damage to the engine. I care nothing about going further than that. So, fuelpak was all I needed and not a joke to me. If I ever had any plans to go further, I wouldn't have bought the fuelpak to begin with.
ORIGINAL: abcd9906
I don't want to upset anyone, but the fuelpak is kind of a joke. It's just a crutch to get you through. With a sert or PCIII USB (which I have) You can do more fine tuning and actually get it closer toright. If I'm wrong .. Please feel free to set me straight. I took my FuelPak off though.
I don't want to upset anyone, but the fuelpak is kind of a joke. It's just a crutch to get you through. With a sert or PCIII USB (which I have) You can do more fine tuning and actually get it closer toright. If I'm wrong .. Please feel free to set me straight. I took my FuelPak off though.
Fuelpak leaves the diagnostic plug for the stock ecm exposed so the bike can still be run on a dyno. However, keep in mind that you don't "tune" a fuelpak, you program it with supplied codes for your setup/config. So, if you change that config or the dealer does, the fuelpak may not be able to do its job because it's no longer compatible with the ecm settings that were there. Fuelpak supplies codes for a given pipe make/model and assumes a high-flow a/c but does give different settings depending on whether or not you are running the ecm stock or if you've had a model HD download to the ecm. But, that's about it.
If you truly want to fine tune your bike on a dyno, go with a PCIII minimum, or a SERT.
All I wanted out of my engine was to free it up and make it sound better with stage 1 while maintaining a decent air/fuel mix to prevent damage to the engine. I care nothing about going further than that. So, fuelpak was all I needed and not a joke to me. If I ever had any plans to go further, I wouldn't have bought the fuelpak to begin with.
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12-05-2007, 05:23 PM
RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
ORIGINAL: 2007fxdc
I disagree that it's a "joke" but agree that it's basically a crutch - if you want to use that word. However, if just getting through is what you are after, like I was, there is nothing wrong with it. A fuelpak is fine for a typical stage 1 to be sure you are getting the right air/fuel mix on your efi. If you want to do more than that, it's not the way to go.
Fuelpak leaves the diagnostic plug for the stock ecm exposed so the bike can still be run on a dyno. However, keep in mind that you don't "tune" a fuelpak, you program it with supplied codes for your setup/config. So, if you change that config or the dealer does, the fuelpak may not be able to do its job because it's no longer compatible with the ecm settings that were there. Fuelpak supplies codes for a given pipe make/model and assumes a high-flow a/c but does give different settings depending on whether or not you are running the ecm stock or if you've had a model HD download to the ecm. But, that's about it.
If you truly want to fine tune your bike on a dyno, go with a PCIII minimum, or a SERT.
All I wanted out of my engine was to free it up and make it sound better with stage 1 while maintaining a decent air/fuel mix to prevent damage to the engine. I care nothing about going further than that. So, fuelpak was all I needed and not a joke to me. If I ever had any plans to go further, I wouldn't have bought the fuelpak to begin with.
I disagree that it's a "joke" but agree that it's basically a crutch - if you want to use that word. However, if just getting through is what you are after, like I was, there is nothing wrong with it. A fuelpak is fine for a typical stage 1 to be sure you are getting the right air/fuel mix on your efi. If you want to do more than that, it's not the way to go.
Fuelpak leaves the diagnostic plug for the stock ecm exposed so the bike can still be run on a dyno. However, keep in mind that you don't "tune" a fuelpak, you program it with supplied codes for your setup/config. So, if you change that config or the dealer does, the fuelpak may not be able to do its job because it's no longer compatible with the ecm settings that were there. Fuelpak supplies codes for a given pipe make/model and assumes a high-flow a/c but does give different settings depending on whether or not you are running the ecm stock or if you've had a model HD download to the ecm. But, that's about it.
If you truly want to fine tune your bike on a dyno, go with a PCIII minimum, or a SERT.
All I wanted out of my engine was to free it up and make it sound better with stage 1 while maintaining a decent air/fuel mix to prevent damage to the engine. I care nothing about going further than that. So, fuelpak was all I needed and not a joke to me. If I ever had any plans to go further, I wouldn't have bought the fuelpak to begin with.
Besides cost I see no reason to go with the PCIII over the SERT. It just adds another piece of hardware/point of failure and piggy-backs on the stock ECM. Ifyou want to squeeze every ounce of performance and like to add/remove aftermarket tuning parts, I believe SERT is the way to go.
But, if all you want to do is add pipes, A/C and have your bike run a little richer/cooler, there is nothing wrong with the FuelPak. There are many users on this board that have the FuelPak and are completely satisfied.
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#8
12-05-2007, 06:09 PM
RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
I actually changed from a PCIII to a Fuelpac. I have a 2006 and for some reason that no one knows (even PC) the PCIII on the 06's requires the bike to crack about 10 times before it will start. After getting no where over the phone with PC I brought it back to the bike shop and exchanged it for a Fuelpac plus some change. My bike runs great with the Fuelpac, better I think than with the PCIII and no cranking issues, and all I have are pipes and a K&N air filter. V&H does have some settings on thier website now for engine upgrades as well, though they are pretty limited.
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12-05-2007, 06:37 PM
RE: Can my bike be put on a dyno
After a week of testing one on two different bikes, There very inconsistent.... Work for some and thats a good thing, but dont stray away from there Suggested pipe combinations.. Dyno docent apply for the Fuel pak... Maybe a Indy with a A/F Analizer..No way to adjust, and they wont tell you what setting does what... Scarry... Oh Thanks Jay.....
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After a week of testing one on two different bikes, There very inconsistent.... Work for some and thats a good thing, but dont stray away from there Suggested pipe combinations.. Dyno docent apply for the Fuel pak... Maybe a Indy with a A/F Analizer..No way to adjust, and they wont tell you what setting does what... Scarry... Oh Thanks Jay.....
After a week of testing one on two different bikes, There very inconsistent.... Work for some and thats a good thing, but dont stray away from there Suggested pipe combinations.. Dyno docent apply for the Fuel pak... Maybe a Indy with a A/F Analizer..No way to adjust, and they wont tell you what setting does what... Scarry... Oh Thanks Jay.....
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