Can't get it firm, is it too big or too small?
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I have plenty of towels around on the bike when I do this. I also hold a rag around the line fitting and leave enough visible for me to see bubbles. If you go slowly the mess is not as bad as you think. The last time I did it, I made no mess bleeding, but the bike was on the jack. When I put the rags down the damn handlebar turned because I was not holding it, Fluid spashed everywhere because the lid was not on the master cylinder.
I learned to tie the wheel straight ahead!
I learned to tie the wheel straight ahead!
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snake_eyes (12-20-2023)
#12
What size are the stock pistons?
Also, if you hold them face-to-face, do the new pads have about the same surface area as the stock ones?
I'm all in for giving Brembo a call. This ain't their first rodeo so they may have the info you need to ensure that you have the correct master-to-slave ratio before you proceed down other avenues.
Also, if you hold them face-to-face, do the new pads have about the same surface area as the stock ones?
I'm all in for giving Brembo a call. This ain't their first rodeo so they may have the info you need to ensure that you have the correct master-to-slave ratio before you proceed down other avenues.
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Uncle 'B' (12-19-2023)
#13
Well, Brembo told me, politely, to contact SpeedKings who I purchased from. I get it, but still, seems kind of shitty. I mean it really is a math question, what size bore master is optimal to drive my 8 x 30mm piston setup? I know it's not exactly that simple, but I'm not tracking the bike so there's room to fudge...would I be wasting my time getting a 15mm because it'd still be too small?
#14
15mm is probably too small. Just a fyi, I'm not suggesting which way to go. I know you want to keep the stock look. When I upgraded my brakes I first went with a single disc setup. I used a caliper off a R6. I believe the piston sizes are 27/30. I use a Brembo 15rcs with it. When I went to dual disc I moved to the 19rcs. It's a very firm lever. I read somewhere the R6 uses a 16mm radial caliper with them but I don't know for sure.
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When you go too big the usual problem is you loose feel because the brake goes from released to fully applied with a very small lever movement. It is often described as a "wooden" feel. It sounds to me like your problem is the opposite.
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The 11/16" master will move about 1.5 times as much fluid as the 9/16" master. Assuming the two calipers you have now each need the same amount of fluid as the one you replaced, a 19mm master would be about right. 3/4" is about 19mm.
I recall someone posted a link to a site or two with calculations for this very problem. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else.
I recall someone posted a link to a site or two with calculations for this very problem. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else.
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15mm is probably too small. Just a fyi, I'm not suggesting which way to go. I know you want to keep the stock look. When I upgraded my brakes I first went with a single disc setup. I used a caliper off a R6. I believe the piston sizes are 27/30. I use a Brembo 15rcs with it. When I went to dual disc I moved to the 19rcs. It's a very firm lever. I read somewhere the R6 uses a 16mm radial caliper with them but I don't know for sure.
Didn't you say you were already at 11/16"? That's a little more than 17mm.
When you go too big the usual problem is you loose feel because the brake goes from released to fully applied with a very small lever movement. It is often described as a "wooden" feel. It sounds to me like your problem is the opposite.
When you go too big the usual problem is you loose feel because the brake goes from released to fully applied with a very small lever movement. It is often described as a "wooden" feel. It sounds to me like your problem is the opposite.
The 11/16" master will move about 1.5 times as much fluid as the 9/16" master. Assuming the two calipers you have now each need the same amount of fluid as the one you replaced, a 19mm master would be about right. 3/4" is about 19mm.
I recall someone posted a link to a site or two with calculations for this very problem. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else.
I recall someone posted a link to a site or two with calculations for this very problem. Not sure if it was here or somewhere else.
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