Howling front brake
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Howling front brake
Last fall, when I first got this bike, the front brake made this God-awful howling noise, like a semi truck brake. The front pads were pretty nasty so I replaced them with Lyndall Gold Plus. All was well until yesterday (first ride of the season). Now, the noise is back. Not every time, but often enough to be obnoxious. It's a floating disk. Could it be loose? Any ideas?
TIA...
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#2
Assuming the pads aren't worn down to the wear markers (which are little protrusions on some pads designed to make the brakes squeal before you get metal-on-metal damage), brake dust of one kind or another is the usual culprit.
Any rust on the disc after sitting over-winter? That rust-dust can clog up brake pads and make the brake squeal.
Generally, I'd:
(i) take off the pads and give them a quick wirebrush (and sandpaper if necessary) to take off any glaze/embeded dust,
(ii) clean down the disc with a scouring pad and warm soapy water, then rinse well, and
(iii) use anti-squeal paste (eg Loctite 718808 or similar) on the back of the pads, between pad and piston when re-installing the pads.
Any rust on the disc after sitting over-winter? That rust-dust can clog up brake pads and make the brake squeal.
Generally, I'd:
(i) take off the pads and give them a quick wirebrush (and sandpaper if necessary) to take off any glaze/embeded dust,
(ii) clean down the disc with a scouring pad and warm soapy water, then rinse well, and
(iii) use anti-squeal paste (eg Loctite 718808 or similar) on the back of the pads, between pad and piston when re-installing the pads.
Last edited by Davdoodles; 05-08-2019 at 06:23 AM.
#3
Thanks. It's not a squeal, more like a ringing sound. I recall my 10 speed bike used to make a similar sound from the brakes that clamped on the wheel rim.
The pads were new last fall and appeared to fix the problem then. The old pads looked like they had rusted to the disk, or something. (The disk did not look like the pads had rusted to them. Hard to describe, like little granules missing form the surface). The disk appeared to be fine (and does today). I did clean it, and will try that again. I think I did use anti-squeal compound.
The pads were new last fall and appeared to fix the problem then. The old pads looked like they had rusted to the disk, or something. (The disk did not look like the pads had rusted to them. Hard to describe, like little granules missing form the surface). The disk appeared to be fine (and does today). I did clean it, and will try that again. I think I did use anti-squeal compound.
Last edited by John CC; 05-08-2019 at 07:24 AM.
#4
It's obnoxious! I removed the pads and cleaned the Brake Quiet off the back. Cleaned the disk and lightly sanded it. Re-applied the brake quiet and reinstalled the pads, with caliper grease on all the contact points. No difference!
The noise happens under moderate brake pressure. Go lighter or harder and it stops. I get nothing like it from the back.
Any ideas? I don't like people staring at me...
Maybe it's time for the Big Brake conversion...
The noise happens under moderate brake pressure. Go lighter or harder and it stops. I get nothing like it from the back.
Any ideas? I don't like people staring at me...
Maybe it's time for the Big Brake conversion...
#5
Time to get the wheel into the air and spin it while you are sitting in front of it. Where is the noise coming from? Some times its just the air going through the holes in the rotor that makes noise, sometimes its the pads themselves other times it has nothing to do with the brakes at all and the noise comes from some place else...
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If you can "feel the vibration through the lever" then you might take a look at your rotor. You mention "little granules missing from the surface." I think this may be your problem, sorry to say. There's an uneven ness in/on your swept surface, due to sustained contact with your pads. Humidity can cause the pads to remove a slight layer of metal just where the pads are touching the rotor, and the wheel is stationary for 5 months. This removal may create a "low spot" on the disk. This is what's causing your lever vibration.
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It's obnoxious! I removed the pads and cleaned the Brake Quiet off the back. Cleaned the disk and lightly sanded it. Re-applied the brake quiet and reinstalled the pads, with caliper grease on all the contact points. No difference!
The noise happens under moderate brake pressure. Go lighter or harder and it stops. I get nothing like it from the back.
Any ideas? I don't like people staring at me...
Maybe it's time for the Big Brake conversion...
The noise happens under moderate brake pressure. Go lighter or harder and it stops. I get nothing like it from the back.
Any ideas? I don't like people staring at me...
Maybe it's time for the Big Brake conversion...
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