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Old 07-21-2017, 06:04 AM
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Power increase will be very noticeable. The first time you snap it open in 1st and roll through a few gears you will say ahhhhhhhhhh.
 
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Cut your losses and get a fuel pack or Power Commander 5 with a pre loaded map and you should see a difference.. I did.
 
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If you want to do it right, get a "big bore" stage-1 kit (110 or 117 cu/in)...IMO.

That'll melt your face a bit...
 
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:39 AM
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i noticed a total difference with just street bob headers, slip ons, ness sucker, and power vision canned.

the worthless sh*t shots and dealer tune ruined your fun. the crap shot take away performance and the dealer tune is lean/epa friendly

horrible chioce in pipes, they should come with a disclaimer that says, "will ruin your performance."
 
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Your issue is the pipes..they are the worst design to increase performance
 
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:42 AM
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TBH, with the discussion and back and forth about HD mandate that dealers void '17 bikes warranties if an emission related modification is detected, this is the first time I'd consider a Power Commander. At least it can be fully removed without a trace, unlike a flash tune which as I understand it, the ECM logs. So even if you flash back your original tune it's detected that the ECM was altered.

Many will yell "moss-magnuson act" etc., but this is a documented settlement with the EPA, and an agreement to void. See for yourself, paragraph 14: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...avidson-cd.pdf

My understanding is all dealers are required to enforce this. So just FYI OP, be careful.
 
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Your issue is the pipes..they are the worst design to increase performance
You figure the fuelpak wouldn't do much for me then? I know those pipes arnt the best for performance. I got them more for look and sound but at the same time I want the engine to preform at its full potential. I don't mind spending the money on the fuelpak but only if it will give me some better power
 
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mchad
TBH, with the discussion and back and forth about HD mandate that dealers void '17 bikes warranties if an emission related modification is detected, this is the first time I'd consider a Power Commander. At least it can be fully removed without a trace, unlike a flash tune which as I understand it, the ECM logs. So even if you flash back your original tune it's detected that the ECM was altered.

Many will yell "moss-magnuson act" etc., but this is a documented settlement with the EPA, and an agreement to void. See for yourself, paragraph 14: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...avidson-cd.pdf

My understanding is all dealers are required to enforce this. So just FYI OP, be careful.
Thank you
 
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Any other opinions on whether a fuelpak would be worth it with my setup?
 
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Originally Posted by Axeman89
Thank you
Sorry, I didn't notice you weren't in the US. So what I wrote isn't applicable to you at all.
 


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