117 longevity questions
#41
12-21-2016, 03:45 PM
I really appreciate you sharing what you have learned. I'm not just saying that, I mean it. All of you, I can't say thank you enough. I will do another build at some point that will more than likely be a 124 on a different bike at which point I will upgrade every possible component. For that build I will leave no stone unturned. But for what I'm looking for at this point, I feel like the 117 is the way to go. I like the 107 kits too but for this bike I would prefer to stick with HD parts. Thank you everybody for all of your help. When I do the build, I will take plenty of pictures and post a thread of everything I do. Hopefully others can learn from what I do, and hopefully it will encourage them to do their own work instead of having the dealer do it. Again, THANK YOU EVERYBODY!!!!
#42
12-21-2016, 04:04 PM
HD's kits are not the best bang for the buck. They do provide more performance for those who are looking to maintain a warranty and such. You would not need to do the bottom end with Harley's 117 kit and the reason is that it doesn't make more power than a nice 107. I'm not knocking it in anyway. It's reliable and gives you MOAR POWER ! Lol. I've considered it for myself. I wanted to share what I have learned with you. You could spend $1300 and get 115hp/125tq on a reliable 107 build or buy HD's kit and get about the same all without doing the bottom end. You also could go with a different 117 kit and get 130-140 HP/TQ that's just as reliable but you'd need to beef up the bottom end on that. Fuel Moto has a Hellraiser 107 kit that you would need to make sure you have the bottom end for. Just wanted to let you know why some say that you need to do the bottom end with the 117 and some don't.
#43
12-21-2016, 04:28 PM
While I had him on the phone (Art) I mentioned the "drop in kit".....He simply said that with the 117 they like to dig a little deeper in to the motor. They don't do the kits but what he did mention was the thin spigots (said you could shave with em) and the short piston skirt..They like a little taller cylinder with a longer skirted piston setup.He did mention that they tend to run on the "noisy" side with shorter skirt.Anyways,To make sure I spelled "spigot" right I Googled it and found this.
http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index....c,89281.0.html
Last edited by HrdNox; 12-22-2016 at 06:27 PM.
#45
12-22-2016, 04:08 PM
#46
12-22-2016, 04:59 PM
Road Captain
#47
12-22-2016, 08:20 PM
Cruiser
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Harley-David...9e03d9e/g.html
Give this article a read. Your biggest problem, will be heat. My stock FXDLS with the 110 overheated the first week I owned it. 80* day in a suburb of Chicago. Heat is the ultimate enemy of the TWIN CAM
Give this article a read. Your biggest problem, will be heat. My stock FXDLS with the 110 overheated the first week I owned it. 80* day in a suburb of Chicago. Heat is the ultimate enemy of the TWIN CAM
#48
12-22-2016, 08:52 PM
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Harley-David...9e03d9e/g.html
Give this article a read. Your biggest problem, will be heat. My stock FXDLS with the 110 overheated the first week I owned it. 80* day in a suburb of Chicago. Heat is the ultimate enemy of the TWIN CAM
Give this article a read. Your biggest problem, will be heat. My stock FXDLS with the 110 overheated the first week I owned it. 80* day in a suburb of Chicago. Heat is the ultimate enemy of the TWIN CAM
#49
12-22-2016, 08:58 PM
Cruiser
The engine went into RARCO (Rear cylinder cut out) and began to knock. I killed it immediately and coasted to the shoulder. Let it sit for 30 minutes and rode it home. I changed the oil the next morning to see if I had any metal floating around, None found.
The only item that failed immediately after it over heated was the rear rocker box gasket.
I took it in to the dealer and explained what had happened. The service tech said the gasket looked like it got hot and that the rocker box cover bolts were loose. Due to extreme heat.
So nothing really broke, however pretty said you pay 17k for a motorcycle that overheats.
The only item that failed immediately after it over heated was the rear rocker box gasket.
I took it in to the dealer and explained what had happened. The service tech said the gasket looked like it got hot and that the rocker box cover bolts were loose. Due to extreme heat.
So nothing really broke, however pretty said you pay 17k for a motorcycle that overheats.
#50
12-22-2016, 09:00 PM
And what were the operating conditions when you overheated? Were you in stop and go traffic? Were you moving? If so what speed? I know heats a killer. My 103 streetbob felt significantly underpowered when I was in traffic on 90+ degree days (sitting at stops for a few minutes at a time). After a few times I realized what was happening, now I shut the bike off and push it if I'm in stop and go.
I'm going to be looking for a good oil cooler and cooling fan setup. Hopefully that will be enough to protect the engine.
I'm going to be looking for a good oil cooler and cooling fan setup. Hopefully that will be enough to protect the engine.