Ohlins front fork cartridges
#334
had very nice weather in the NW today, got in 150mi. of riding. the ohlins cartridges are for sure worth a look at. although I have to play around with the adjustments they are much smoother over bumps and is nice to be rid of that annoying rebound clunk. if one does not mind spending the bucks they are for sure better (IMHO) than playing around with different springs. was also looking at the legends cartridges but liked the external spring tension adjustment in the ohlins.
#335
had very nice weather in the NW today, got in 150mi. of riding. the ohlins cartridges are for sure worth a look at. although I have to play around with the adjustments they are much smoother over bumps and is nice to be rid of that annoying rebound clunk. if one does not mind spending the bucks they are for sure better (IMHO) than playing around with different springs. was also looking at the legends cartridges but liked the external spring tension adjustment in the ohlins.
#336
Unfortunately, your response doesn't surprise me
No "Pissing Match" here
Information from you is always welcome... condescension...not so much (although I'm sure I've been guilty of that)
What "point" are you talking about?...Your previous post indicated to me (and I think others as well) that you hadn't read/seen the subtleties of Hooligan317 or Highwaymans installation (I think the only LR-S "Installs" in this thread so far), so I was trying to point out (Post#175) that the fact that the LR-S having one cartridge-fork-tube with it's potential obstacles didn't apply to them...and still doesn't.
I'm genuinely interested (technically) in a solution for the LR-S cartridge-fork-tube issue without the need of changing the tube and stated that in Post #175. I've never had those or similar in my hands, so I can't comment on the technical nature of that particular issue.
Nope...I'm just pointing out how Ohlins said to do it with pictures really for others to see the reference. Maybe we can get Frédéric CM (FXDB) or W.Glide (FXDWG) to comment as this is exactly what they had to do (maybe they just didn't comment about the difficulty)
I'm guessing here to your meaning...and maybe some of this doesn't apply...dunno for sure...
but don't misinterpret anything on the last post such as the large text as being anything more than basically a "Highlighting" of subtleties (sometimes are hard to pick out in Text, hence the "Highlighting").
Additionally, all the stuff about timing and "cut and paste" (again, if I understand you)...
It's not our responsibility as a Reader to make sure the Poster (which we don't even know is going to post) saw all the previous posts (or posts that you missed while formulating a post), that's on the Poster. Readers can be understanding of the situation, but not responsible.
Here's a suggestion for you (I know how you love those)...
Since this took a while to write (interruptions and such), I refreshed the thread to see if I had missed any applicable subsequent posts and will view the thread after the "post" again. I will then "edit" the posting if any applicable posts are seen.
You sure don't have to do that, but then don't complain that it happened...Really it takes no time
Now I hope we can get back to some good info with you involved of course
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No "Pissing Match" here
Information from you is always welcome... condescension...not so much (although I'm sure I've been guilty of that)
What "point" are you talking about?...Your previous post indicated to me (and I think others as well) that you hadn't read/seen the subtleties of Hooligan317 or Highwaymans installation (I think the only LR-S "Installs" in this thread so far), so I was trying to point out (Post#175) that the fact that the LR-S having one cartridge-fork-tube with it's potential obstacles didn't apply to them...and still doesn't.
I'm genuinely interested (technically) in a solution for the LR-S cartridge-fork-tube issue without the need of changing the tube and stated that in Post #175. I've never had those or similar in my hands, so I can't comment on the technical nature of that particular issue.
Nope...I'm just pointing out how Ohlins said to do it with pictures really for others to see the reference. Maybe we can get Frédéric CM (FXDB) or W.Glide (FXDWG) to comment as this is exactly what they had to do (maybe they just didn't comment about the difficulty)
I'm guessing here to your meaning...and maybe some of this doesn't apply...dunno for sure...
but don't misinterpret anything on the last post such as the large text as being anything more than basically a "Highlighting" of subtleties (sometimes are hard to pick out in Text, hence the "Highlighting").
Additionally, all the stuff about timing and "cut and paste" (again, if I understand you)...
It's not our responsibility as a Reader to make sure the Poster (which we don't even know is going to post) saw all the previous posts (or posts that you missed while formulating a post), that's on the Poster. Readers can be understanding of the situation, but not responsible.
Here's a suggestion for you (I know how you love those)...
Since this took a while to write (interruptions and such), I refreshed the thread to see if I had missed any applicable subsequent posts and will view the thread after the "post" again. I will then "edit" the posting if any applicable posts are seen.
You sure don't have to do that, but then don't complain that it happened...Really it takes no time
Now I hope we can get back to some good info with you involved of course
.
here is the simple fix, for all you FXDLS owners who want to run Ohlins NIX22's:
1. buy the thicker, right side dampening bolt, for the left side install
2. take apart the fork, and remove the cup/oil lock
3. have a machine shop (or DIY) open the bore to 5/8" just enough for the bolt to slide thru
4. drop in oil lock and reinstall tube in to lower with fresh seal
5. follow directions and install cartridge normally
that's literally it...nothing else! I'm on the road...just need to fine tune all my settings now.
I ran no top-out springs either...not necessary. if you want them for matching purposes on both, buy another too, but I didn't...Ohlins explained its hardly necessary.
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GREENOHAWK69 (01-24-2022)
#338
Cartridge kit
I have a set of Low Rider Dyna forks I am currently putting 30mm cartridges in. They did not have a single cartridge. I have tossed many FLT premium cartridges which are the same thing. On line when I used the OEM Parts finder, St Charles and looked up FXDLRs but it only goes up to 2016. None have cartridges and none have a FXDLRs, FKDLR, yes.. I finally located a 2017 FXDLRs (Low Rider S). It did indeed have a different 45500233 OIL LOCK PIECE (LEFT) $11.25 that holds the cartridge in the bottom of the slider and uses a step type 45500236 SCREW (LEFT) $6.01. You are correct in that you need either another right side oil lock and new 45500118, SCREW M14 X 1.25 X 25 HEX SOCKET CAP which will work just fine as I have replaced them when converting them over to real cartridges. You are going to need another top out spring and manufacture an adapter to seat the top out spring in the fork tube. It sits on top of the check valve and is needed. I do not see anything in the kits I have. I do not have the fork tube of your exact bike in front of me so I have no idea if there is any place to to secure the top out spring in under the cartridge like the right side does.
When I read the post yesterday I must have overlooked the year motorcycle which is important to look at the parts list. The FKC which uses the same cartridge mount as this NIX 22 does, has a solution for OEM cartridges in one of their spring kits. I have absolutely no idea what a buffer tube is?
I make the NIX 30mm cartridges and been doing the for 7-8 years and have installed will over 100 sets of cartridges in that time. The reason why I did not manufacture this type of mounting system is because I cut the check valve out of the fork so I can have over 7 1/2" of stroke, can start and stop the stroke any place I want, change the value and length of the top out springs to control the ride quality of the top side of the stroke (rebound) unlike the very stiff top out 5/8" stoke OEM top out springs you must use.
Jeff, I re-work every FKC-101 & 102 cartridge. If you do not know something is wrong than you do not have to have it fixed. There are many on this forum who know it is wrong and I fix it for my customers only. Jeff, go to the track and at any given time you will see trailers with tuners as well as teams with their own full time shock tuners. Everyone there started out with out of the box shocks just as you. This does not mean just racing applications, street also. T hey all make over 6 figures tuning & adjusting shocks. Just because it comes that way from the factory does not mean they are correct for the individual riding the bike. Every one of my NIX 30 forks are tuned, re-valved and gone through to the customers satisfaction. If the customer is not happy and shows up we get it right if necessary. You can not do this through the telephone. Sometimes, more then not, it is not a matter of twisting *****. This technology you have just purchased was developed for the track and you all are using it for the street.
I will take pictures of the Ohlins cartridges as soon as my camera battery charges up due to inactivity. Later
When I read the post yesterday I must have overlooked the year motorcycle which is important to look at the parts list. The FKC which uses the same cartridge mount as this NIX 22 does, has a solution for OEM cartridges in one of their spring kits. I have absolutely no idea what a buffer tube is?
I make the NIX 30mm cartridges and been doing the for 7-8 years and have installed will over 100 sets of cartridges in that time. The reason why I did not manufacture this type of mounting system is because I cut the check valve out of the fork so I can have over 7 1/2" of stroke, can start and stop the stroke any place I want, change the value and length of the top out springs to control the ride quality of the top side of the stroke (rebound) unlike the very stiff top out 5/8" stoke OEM top out springs you must use.
Jeff, I re-work every FKC-101 & 102 cartridge. If you do not know something is wrong than you do not have to have it fixed. There are many on this forum who know it is wrong and I fix it for my customers only. Jeff, go to the track and at any given time you will see trailers with tuners as well as teams with their own full time shock tuners. Everyone there started out with out of the box shocks just as you. This does not mean just racing applications, street also. T hey all make over 6 figures tuning & adjusting shocks. Just because it comes that way from the factory does not mean they are correct for the individual riding the bike. Every one of my NIX 30 forks are tuned, re-valved and gone through to the customers satisfaction. If the customer is not happy and shows up we get it right if necessary. You can not do this through the telephone. Sometimes, more then not, it is not a matter of twisting *****. This technology you have just purchased was developed for the track and you all are using it for the street.
I will take pictures of the Ohlins cartridges as soon as my camera battery charges up due to inactivity. Later
Hi any info on getting Cartridge kit ,I come across somewhere in America bigbear choppers who sells some good stuff do you do anything
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