Hi I am looking to upgrade my cam plate and oil pump but not sure what I want to go with. Im looking at the SE and the S&S I have been leaning toward S&S but i thought I would ask here if anyone has used them before and which they might think is the better way to go. Thanks for any help.

 

The stock oil pump and cam plate will handle everything your motor can call for but it's your money and either one, SE or S&S, will do just as good as the other.

 

You're good to get rid of stock. The bypass valve doesn't work effectively. Basically instead of oil bypassing and going back to sump, it ends up flowing to much to the head. Like if you fill your bike up with to much oil. It will come out your breather tubes, some will be burned some will end up in the air filter. I know not what you asked but new cam plates and pump will relieve that issue and flow more oil faster. Which leads to cooler engine. I'm not a great mechanic but I've been looking into this. Between SE & S&S, I'd go with S&S. Fueling makes a good cam plate and oil pump. They claim 40% more oil. If you get chance Fat Book can be downloaded as PDF and look Fueling up. S&S makes some stout parts. While your in Cam chest look at FlyWheel run out, bearing wear, and those damn cam tensioners. If you get chance send me message on what you go with, the cost and how you like them.

 

Well im going to build up my 103 not sure which way im going yet. SE stage 4 or S&S stage 4, or maybe SE new 110ci bolt on where u dont have to machine the case. But the way i look at it is whatever i do the oil pump i pick will work for any of it.

 

Just about every 107" build that Fuel-Moto does and a lot of other very dependable Independent shops are running the OEM oil pump and cam plate with out any problems at all. I don't know where exactly you got your information but it's not accurate at all. You better keep looking into your research.

 

The information I got was from and Indy shop here in eastern Wa. Then I read more on it. http://www.baggersmag.com/twin-cam-o...em-basics-tech
This site I just pulled up will tell all about the problem and what it creates. It gets 95+ most of the summer here, we had 20 days over a hundred degrees. I know some places are hotter. Replacing the stock with after market oil pump and cam plate allows the oil to be at the pressure it's supposed to run. The newer cam plate will get the oil where it needs to go more efficiently. If you read that article it talks about some of the problem the stock relief valve can cause. Its worth reading even if you don't agree. If your looking to go with S&S mod, I'd like that bolt on 107", I would definitely put in the Fueling Pump and Plate. They claim it can keep temps down 20% and scavenge oil out of crank case efficiently. He is also right you could just stay stock but if you do. Get Red Lines replacement Cam Plate Relief Vavle. Stock has known to get dirt from oil and get stuck. Remember this is my opinion and what I would do. I'm not professional mechanic. Definately ask around see what other guys think and what they run. http://www.baggersmag.com/twin-cam-oiling-system-basics-tech

 

The stock cam plate is good for 575 lift.
the cam plate and pump isn't much but it does give a piece of mind.
we have the ss106 kit in our wide glide with ss585 cams with stage 3 head work.
I am very happy with the results, 110hp with 105 tq. It doesnt hit until 3,000 rpms. Not bad below 3,000 just a lot stronger above 3,000 when the cam hits.
i wouldn't waste my money on a se 110 kit.
it is just my opinion though.

 

Yup my 585 starts really hitting at 3,000 and I'm also running a stock oil pump I just installed the Baisley LM-R2 spring into it. Stock pump is more than fine and many run them, but more oil flow can't hurt if you have the $$$$.

Just from the numbers that I see from the HD site on their 110 it's not impressive at all, but I guess if you go nuts w/ the heads those numbers will go much higher.

S&S makes amazing parts and I'm very happy with my 106".

 

The SE 110ci kit im looking at I can not find on HD website and it is said to get about 112/115. And i can get that for around 2k. Without new cam plate and oil pump.

 

I think your indy thinks he knows too much. In my experience indies tend to know one dimension of how to build a motor and the parts they use are the best. It doesnt take much to think a backyard mecanic can open a shop. I say that in general not directed at anyone specific here. Also your statement about fueling is wrong. The crank runout spec on their pumps is .002 unless you do a crank up build you will be wiping out pumps and plates, especially if one goes stage 4, HDs dont have that tight of a spec sorry. Ask me how I know. Ended up suing and winning against an indy for a mismatched build.