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Old 01-23-2012 | 05:10 AM
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Im on my second black dresser and I've accumulated a lot of professional polishes, waxes, a dual action porter cable buffer and studied up on how to do everything from covering up deep scratches to taking care of swirl marks. here's my tip - if the vivid black doesn't have deep scratches in which case the DA porter cable buffer is needed along with a series of polishing compounds, maybe touch up paint; so if just swirl marks and dull, spend about $20 and buy Turtle Was Black Box and restore your finish to brand new condition with a hard finish that seems to resist getting dirty. kit strips everything off, puts on a filling polish then wax. after that can use the touch up. really pops
 
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Old 01-27-2012 | 03:55 PM
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To OP: glazes do not work with pure synthetics because of bonding issues. Usually a glaze is only used with carnaubas. The fillers of glazes are oily, which synthetics don't adhere to. Danase Wet Glaze was one of the exceptions to this rule as it will work with synthetics and carnaubas. Meguiar's glaze will not work with synthetics as it's a conventional glaze.
 
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Old 01-30-2012 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SUNNYSIDE
If your Vivid Black paint is in nice shape here's a tip to keep it looking its best. Take a wet microfiber cloth and rinse the surface well. Dry using a super clean microfiber cloth. Apply Meguiars Swirl X to the surface you're working on with a super clean microfiber applicator pad. Hand rub the paint surface using lengthwise strokes wherever possible (i.e. not circular motions.) Then apply Mequires Show Car Glaze and again hand rub the paint surface in the same manner using a fresh clean applicator pad and wiping cloth. As a final step I seal and protect the paint with a synthetic vs. carnauba wax. Carnauba wax(or yellow wax) has traditionally been
used to hide minor paint flaws and light scratches in black paint. I live in Florida and the sun oxidizes carnuaba wax quickly which clouds your black
paint finish. Not knocking carnauba wax, it does a good job sealing and protecting paint and it would probably be my choice in a cooler or even cold climate...but not under a hot sun like here.

Once you've performed these steps to your paint, on future cleaning sessions you can remove the Swirl X from the procedure and just use the Show Car Glaze followed by a sealer until the next time your paint finish looks like it could use some deep cleaning.

I must sound like a Mequiars pimp and I'm not. These are are just the products I use and trust to provide me with the results I'm looking for.

Harley-Davidson (in my opinion) has some of the best quality paint finishes out there straight from the factory, and you can keep your paint looking showroom new if you're willing to do your part.

Thanks for the info man! I got a question for you. I have an 07 vivd black road glide. It was pretty neglected when I bought it. How do I get the swirl? brush marks off the paint? The black shines up ok, but I still see a sh!tload of scratches and swirl marks, nothing through to the paint. I read one guy wetsanding his clear coat and re applying another coat? Is this do-able or bs? I'm looking to get the finish as good as I can without having to re-paint the biotch. Thanks!
 
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Old 01-31-2012 | 08:51 AM
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Ronstopable...Before clear coating, wet sanding was used to remove "orange peel" on enamel paint jobs. Since the advent of clear coating we have a whole new ballgame. These days a thin coat of paint is applied and then topped with clear coat. It was actually a great innovation since the problem it was providing a solution to was oxidation. Automobile paint was plagued by oxidation for years. The paint just simply faded away.
There are many good products on the market for working with your clear coat and unless you have some deep gouges you should have no problem bringing back the shine you're hoping for. It's just my opinion, but I have a lot of faith in Meguires products. For the serious scratches try using "Scratch X". For the fine "Spider Web" type scratches try "Swirl X", works for me anyway. It may be more work, but I hand rub everything(no machine applicators). Another tip when working with black paint (or any dark color for that matter) is to stick with long straight motions vs. circular motions. Wash your paint first with sudsy Dawn Dish soap and rinse well with plenty of water, this will remove any dirt and oil off the surface you're working with. Keep all your microfiber cloths super clean,(you don't want any additional scratches). Use a synthetic paint sealer as a final step.

Hopes these suggestions help...Good Luck!
 
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Old 02-09-2012 | 11:54 AM
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Thanks Sunnyside! What synthetic paint sealer you recommend?
 
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Old 02-10-2012 | 09:59 AM
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I'm not sure if this applies to normal paint, but in the boating world, many people use pledge on their bass boat. it gives an awesome shine, yeah. when i was about 12 yo we had a bass boat and the clear gel coat had faded badly and was very milky. I had tried all kinds of boat waxes with no improvement. somebody told me to use pledge and it was amazing how much it helped it. looked almost new again. well in about a year it became milky again. my brother took it to a guy and paid about $900 to have it wet sanded and regelled. it looked brand new again, for about a year..... then the gel started seperating and was milky looking again. this was many years ago. I bought a new bass boat a few years ago and was reading on one of the boat forums about waxes for fiberglass. pledge is a popular topic on there. anyway, i found out from the forum that pledge actually penetrates through the gel coat and penetrates into the pores of fiberglass and makes it IMPOSSIBLE to regel a boat which has had pledge put on it. that's why the new gel coating on our old boat separated in a year after being redone. who knows if it would penetrate normal paint and get into the metal of your bike making future paint jobs not stick. probably not as metal is a diff animal than fiberglass... but it's still not made to protect paint from the elements as wax is... just thought i'd throw that out there as some of you may be boat owners. bassboatcentral.com is the forum i visit and is by far the best boating/fishing forum i've found. loads of boat info on there. hope this helps somebody.
 
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Old 02-10-2012 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KevenW
I'm not sure if this applies to normal paint, but in the boating world, many people use pledge on their bass boat. it gives an awesome shine, yeah. when i was about 12 yo we had a bass boat and the clear gel coat had faded badly and was very milky. I had tried all kinds of boat waxes with no improvement. somebody told me to use pledge and it was amazing how much it helped it. looked almost new again. well in about a year it became milky again. my brother took it to a guy and paid about $900 to have it wet sanded and regelled. it looked brand new again, for about a year..... then the gel started seperating and was milky looking again. this was many years ago. I bought a new bass boat a few years ago and was reading on one of the boat forums about waxes for fiberglass. pledge is a popular topic on there. anyway, i found out from the forum that pledge actually penetrates through the gel coat and penetrates into the pores of fiberglass and makes it IMPOSSIBLE to regel a boat which has had pledge put on it. that's why the new gel coating on our old boat separated in a year after being redone. who knows if it would penetrate normal paint and get into the metal of your bike making future paint jobs not stick. probably not as metal is a diff animal than fiberglass... but it's still not made to protect paint from the elements as wax is... just thought i'd throw that out there as some of you may be boat owners. bassboatcentral.com is the forum i visit and is by far the best boating/fishing forum i've found. loads of boat info on there. hope this helps somebody.
But some parts of our bikes are not metal i.e.fairing,lowers,side covers,saddle bags,tour pak.
 
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Old 02-13-2012 | 07:08 AM
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To Ronstopable:

I use Meguiars NXT Tech Wax 2.0 to seal my paint. It's expensive, but a little bit goes a long way. I've been using it for quite a while now. It comes off as easy as it goes on. Meguiars suggests applying 2 coats just to ensure complete coverage. Probably good advise, but I seldom feel the extra step to be necessary. When my paint is dusty vs. dirty I spray clear water on a super clean microfiber cloth and wipe the paint down. After it dries I apply the NXT. My paint continues to look brand new.

It's been said that the average consumer does more damage to their paint by improper washing and rinsing than any other single factor. (I happen to agree with that statement.) I have watched in horror as people wash the mud off their wheels and then take the same sponge (filled with dirt from their wheels) and drag it across their paint. You can't make that up.

Be Well My Friend and Good Luck !
 
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Old 02-13-2012 | 07:27 AM
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Old 02-15-2012 | 04:59 PM
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I have tried all the waxes, and have used Pledge, now I use the Target brand of furniture wax. I had 87K on my 02' ultra and it looked good.
 



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