jetting issue?
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jetting issue?
I have kind of an interesting thing going on. I have a 95 softail custom. 1340, with 25,000 miles.
High flow K&N air, with straight drag pipes. Just bought the bike last winter.
Previous owner had no idea about the jetting.
I seem to go thru fuel very quickly and during shifting (in between gears) its almost like there is extra fuel to burn. I get no pop or bog, but the engine doesnt "pause" during the shift.
Ive run without a filter, for a minute, to try more flow with the fuel, but it really doesnt change much.
Any ideas on what kind of jet I should be looking to start with? (Im in Ohio)
Is it even a jetting problem? I mean the bike idles, runs fine other than fast fuel burn and seems abit loud. Im I lean??
High flow K&N air, with straight drag pipes. Just bought the bike last winter.
Previous owner had no idea about the jetting.
I seem to go thru fuel very quickly and during shifting (in between gears) its almost like there is extra fuel to burn. I get no pop or bog, but the engine doesnt "pause" during the shift.
Ive run without a filter, for a minute, to try more flow with the fuel, but it really doesnt change much.
Any ideas on what kind of jet I should be looking to start with? (Im in Ohio)
Is it even a jetting problem? I mean the bike idles, runs fine other than fast fuel burn and seems abit loud. Im I lean??
#2
Not sure what you mean by "pause" during shift?
Track your mileage if you can, and probably not a bad idea to pull the carb and see what jetting you have. If the bike is new to you, it would be a good idea.
How does your plugs look? What about the inside of your pipes? Lean jetting will make the bike run great, but bad for the engine...YD
Track your mileage if you can, and probably not a bad idea to pull the carb and see what jetting you have. If the bike is new to you, it would be a good idea.
How does your plugs look? What about the inside of your pipes? Lean jetting will make the bike run great, but bad for the engine...YD
#3
thanks for the reply. I think Ill pull the carb to see what jet I have in there. Lean is making sense now. everything runs great but I do "feel" the engine almost hitting really hard. if that makes sense? did an oil job just to be sure oil was fine. seems a bit dark, but who know how long its been since last change.
the drag pipes do have covers on the top ends....? maybe discolored under? Ill have to check.
I put new plugs basically the first day. Ill have to pull them and give a check.
The noise/gas burn I hear during shifting is the exact same when I downshift for a stop. When I pull in the clutch and down shift, the motor doesnt get quiet or pause for a sec, it continues to pop (but not really a pop like back fire)
lol. hope this all makes sense......
the drag pipes do have covers on the top ends....? maybe discolored under? Ill have to check.
I put new plugs basically the first day. Ill have to pull them and give a check.
The noise/gas burn I hear during shifting is the exact same when I downshift for a stop. When I pull in the clutch and down shift, the motor doesnt get quiet or pause for a sec, it continues to pop (but not really a pop like back fire)
lol. hope this all makes sense......
#5
Tell me your MPG's or why yuou feel you have "high consumption". YD
#6
Hey Yankee....
My mileage per gallon is probably only 25mpg. I do lots of city riding.
The "burble" is a great way to describe the sound.
I pulled the plugs and the front looks "normal" slight dry and white, and the rear looks to have a little carbon. not wet.
I also think I screwed up and have been putting 87 octane in the bike.
Not even thinking....
Could this explain sounds and mileage?
My mileage per gallon is probably only 25mpg. I do lots of city riding.
The "burble" is a great way to describe the sound.
I pulled the plugs and the front looks "normal" slight dry and white, and the rear looks to have a little carbon. not wet.
I also think I screwed up and have been putting 87 octane in the bike.
Not even thinking....
Could this explain sounds and mileage?
#7
No, if your bike is stock or stage 1 then 87 octane is fine and what your manual calls for.
If your getting that bad of mileage then something is wrong, I would say way rich but your plug reading does not sound overly rich. Can you post a pic of your plugs?
Probably not a bad idea to pull carb and find out what your slow (idle) jet is, and your main jet, and if your needle has any shims and what kind of needle. To me it sounds like you have a dyno jet kit installed. Those will suck the fuel, but usually show it with black carboned up plugs. Also check your float level. All your specs can be found here and in your manual.
If you don't have ping or spark knock, then 87 octane on stock compression is fine. Is your mileage city miles? Do you have a windshield? YD
If your getting that bad of mileage then something is wrong, I would say way rich but your plug reading does not sound overly rich. Can you post a pic of your plugs?
Probably not a bad idea to pull carb and find out what your slow (idle) jet is, and your main jet, and if your needle has any shims and what kind of needle. To me it sounds like you have a dyno jet kit installed. Those will suck the fuel, but usually show it with black carboned up plugs. Also check your float level. All your specs can be found here and in your manual.
If you don't have ping or spark knock, then 87 octane on stock compression is fine. Is your mileage city miles? Do you have a windshield? YD
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Save your money....don't buy the hypercharger. Your stock air cleaner with a K&N is fine.
Need to get your carb dialed in before anything else. Target areas:
Remove and clean carb, check function of accelerator pump, find out what slow and main jetting you have, check float height, check needle, inspect diaphragm/piston slide for holes and function. Clean everything and every passage with carb cleaner. Check function of linkage while your at it.
Check intake seals for leakage, check carb to manifold gasket for leakage. Make sure manifold and carb are in proper in alignment so your not causing gaps or leaks when reassembling everything.
Once everything is clean and reinstalled, see how the bike runs and do plug readings. Go from there. Am I rich (too much fuel), or am I lean (not enough fuel). When plugs and the inside of your pipes show the proper readings, and you don't have any pinging under load, your good.
I will say this again get rid of the drag pipes. They sound good, but your loosing performance. All the info on your carb and tuning, checking seals, drag pipes, etc can be found here. Time to do some homework. YD
Need to get your carb dialed in before anything else. Target areas:
Remove and clean carb, check function of accelerator pump, find out what slow and main jetting you have, check float height, check needle, inspect diaphragm/piston slide for holes and function. Clean everything and every passage with carb cleaner. Check function of linkage while your at it.
Check intake seals for leakage, check carb to manifold gasket for leakage. Make sure manifold and carb are in proper in alignment so your not causing gaps or leaks when reassembling everything.
Once everything is clean and reinstalled, see how the bike runs and do plug readings. Go from there. Am I rich (too much fuel), or am I lean (not enough fuel). When plugs and the inside of your pipes show the proper readings, and you don't have any pinging under load, your good.
I will say this again get rid of the drag pipes. They sound good, but your loosing performance. All the info on your carb and tuning, checking seals, drag pipes, etc can be found here. Time to do some homework. YD