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Old 03-04-2022, 08:03 PM
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I set my amplifier gains using a 1000 Hz test tone but I see people using 1000hz -3DB or -5DB. What is the proper one to use and why use any of the variations on the basic 1000 Hz. Is there a disadvantage or advantage?
 
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I've always used -5
 
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I've always used -5
why?
 
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Originally Posted by billablehours
why?
Music is not recorded at 0 db. It very rarely (if ever) hits 0 sustained on playback. Remember that music is dynamic in both frequency and level. If you are going to use a single frequency at a static level to set gains then 1K Hz at -5 db is a good test tone for setting mids.
 
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I clearly don’t understand enough about audio for any of this to make sense, but most people seem to agree on 1k -5db so that’s what I have always used. I just wish I understood more of the science or at least the rational behind it.
 
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Originally Posted by hamah
Music is not recorded at 0 db. It very rarely (if ever) hits 0 sustained on playback. Remember that music is dynamic in both frequency and level. If you are going to use a single frequency at a static level to set gains then 1K Hz at -5 db is a good test tone for setting mids.
Thanks but what is the effect of setting at -5 or 0? Louder with one or the other? Better sound quality?
Intuitively I would think setting it at -5 may get some more volume but that may be wrong.
 
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The level of the test tone used in setting gains does not affect the sound quality. It does play a roll in how loud a specific song will sound at a given volume setting on the HU. If you set the gains using a -5db tone a song will sound louder than when played on the same system where you used a 0db tone to set the gains.

As music is recorded at levels averaging around -5db and lower you are, in effect, getting more from your amp when setting gains using -5db tones. If you want to play it safe and never see any clipping at all when playing music then use 0db tones. It'll act as a bit of a safety net and yes, you'll be leaving some headroom on the table. If you are ok with transient spikes in level causing the amp to clip you could try using -10db tones (unless it's a very bass-heavy tune you'll typically not hear the clipping distortion and your speakers won't suffer as the transient spikes are so brief)...but I don't recommend this if you typically always have the volume cranked on your HU.
 

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Originally Posted by hamah
The level of the test tone used in setting gains does not affect the sound quality. It does play a roll in how loud a specific song will sound at a given volume setting on the HU. If you set the gains using a -5db tone a song will sound louder than when played on the same system where you used a 0db tone to set the gains.

As music is recorded at levels averaging around -5db and lower you are, in effect, getting more from your amp when setting gains using -5db tones. If you want to play it safe and never see any clipping at all when playing music then use 0db tones. It'll act as a bit of a safety net and yes, you'll be leaving some headroom on the table. If you are ok with transient spikes in level causing the amp to clip you could try using -10db tones (unless it's a very bass-heavy tune you'll typically not hear the clipping distortion and your speakers won't suffer as the transient spikes are so brief)...but I don't recommend this if you typically always have the volume cranked on your HU.
Thanks Hamah. That is what I was wondering. Sounds like I need to open up the fairing again….
 
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Thanks Hamah. That is what I was wondering. Sounds like I need to open up the fairing again….
Which tone did you use?
 
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I used 1000hz -0db.
However, I just spoke to Larry at Cicada Audio and I am rethinking the whole issue.
 


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