What did you do to your 18+ softail today?
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Well to be clear, neutral is zero problems for me. When new it was, and I was new. After some miles, no sweat. Went to mobile 1 in all 3 at 1000 miles and 5000. Getting neutral was never a problem. Now with Redline, well it's still not a problem... Maybe a bit more sure thing.
When I checked my clutch at 1000, it was 3/4s out, so I did it at 3/4s out... And I just adjusted it because it did stretch... 3/4s out. Zero problems with neutral.
Now the only problem I do have... Before, and still... I keep forgetting to downshift at stops and I start in 2nd or third... Except I'm not forgetting. Afterwards I'm like don't do that again... But I downshift, but it doesn't reset for next. So I'm shifting down to 2nd...but it never goes to 2nd. I shift with authority, but I realize I'm just going thru the motions and it's not actually resetting to shift down to next.
I've checked my linkage, everything is tight and clear. I don't know if it's a hot thing. I sort of just assume it's operator error... Unless you guys can tell me that actually a thing.
When I checked my clutch at 1000, it was 3/4s out, so I did it at 3/4s out... And I just adjusted it because it did stretch... 3/4s out. Zero problems with neutral.
Now the only problem I do have... Before, and still... I keep forgetting to downshift at stops and I start in 2nd or third... Except I'm not forgetting. Afterwards I'm like don't do that again... But I downshift, but it doesn't reset for next. So I'm shifting down to 2nd...but it never goes to 2nd. I shift with authority, but I realize I'm just going thru the motions and it's not actually resetting to shift down to next.
I've checked my linkage, everything is tight and clear. I don't know if it's a hot thing. I sort of just assume it's operator error... Unless you guys can tell me that actually a thing.
#6675
Did you adjust the length of the linkage at all? This happened to me when I was playing with the shifter height and lengthening the linkage to bring the shifter lower. If you lengthen it too much the lever will make contact with the inner primary case and prevent full travel. I came to this idea after my test ride around the block that maybe something was getting hung up or I reinstalled the linkage incorrectly and noticed how far the forward lever was going and tried to slide a piece of paper between it and the inner primary case when depressing the shifter down and it was fully touching. Ended up moving the whole shifter a tooth down and then adjusted the shift linkage and checked the gap and now with the shifter at the height I liked I tested that gap and now a business card can fit and slide freely with the level depressed completely downward.
#6676
Changed trans oil from Red Line Shockproof 75W-90 to HD Heavy Gear Oil 80W-140, from recommendations of members saying HD heavy gear oil makes it easier to find neutral.
First ride after trans oil change last evening didn't seem any easier finding neutral. The big difference happened when I changed factory oil to Red Line at 1,000 mile service. Change to Red Line definitely improved finding neutral, although it still wasn't reliable all the time.
I'm at 5,000 miles now. Next week is supposed to be good riding weather around here, I'll put some more miles on it and see if it improves any.
Not hating or loving either product, just reporting my results.
First ride after trans oil change last evening didn't seem any easier finding neutral. The big difference happened when I changed factory oil to Red Line at 1,000 mile service. Change to Red Line definitely improved finding neutral, although it still wasn't reliable all the time.
I'm at 5,000 miles now. Next week is supposed to be good riding weather around here, I'll put some more miles on it and see if it improves any.
Not hating or loving either product, just reporting my results.
So now my experience matches those of earlier posters. HD Heavy Gear Oil 80W-140 works great in the trans. One poster said it shears down with miles (don't remember how soon) and needs to be changed more often than OEM Manual says (20,000 miles). i.e. - finding neutral starts becoming difficult again. But it only takes one quart of oil, so it's not expensive and is easy to change, no filter either. I'm sold.
Still not gonna try it in the primary. That oil is awful thick for a roller chain and clutch plates.
#6677
Hmmm...I had a similar issue but the other way around, my 1-2 shift would result in falling into N until I adjusted my clutch. I found for my bike 1/2 turn out seems to be the sweet spot with it being easy to find N and positive engagement of all gears and friction zone of the lever.
#6678
I did the first oil change at 260 miles, the second service was at 980, a 1k service with M1 engine and F+ in the primary and trans. Normally, I run an oil change in the early fall (2-3k of hot summer riding) and one around Easter. Two changes a year regardless of miles. The primary and trans get once a year fluid swaps.
Heard about the Redline shock proof stuff and decided to give it a go and found it’s not my cup. Very thin and could feel/hear the downshifts, dropped that pinko stuff out and went with good old F+ in the tranny.
Most of the gents who I listen to recommend F+ in the primary. On the engine oil M1 is fairly cheap, readily available and has lots of zinc and phosphorus. I’m sure there’s a good bit of life left in the oil I drain out but it makes sense to my OCD.
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