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You mean 121, not 117, right?
 
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Originally Posted by bradsULtd
ST 117ci is a "high output" version at 145 ft-lbs, 127 HP vs CVO RG 117ci at 139 ft-lbs, 115 HP

These are not VVT motors
The CVO Road Glide is a VVT motor, clearly states this on website.
 
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Old 01-26-2024, 09:59 AM
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Harley seems to be in a horsepower race, makes me wonder when it will be forced back into chain drive and a further revision to the SE compensator.
 
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Originally Posted by robbie52
The CVO Road Glide is a VVT motor, clearly states this on website.
The following is the break down for the new M8 engine and models

2023- 2024 CVO Road Glide 121 VVT engine 139 TQ @ 3000, 115 HP @ 4500
2023 - 2024 CVO Street Glide 121 VVT engine 139 TQ @ 3000, 115 HP @ 4500
2024 CVO Road Glide ST 121 NO VVT engine 145 TQ @ 4000, 122HP @ 4900
2024 Road Glide and Street Glide 117 NO VVT engine 130 TQ @ 3250, 105HP @ 4600

There are three engines, 121 VVT, 121 No VVT and 117 No VVT
 

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Originally Posted by TedMan
You mean 121, not 117, right?
Yes, correct...sorry about that...
 
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Old 01-26-2024, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by robbie52
The CVO Road Glide is a VVT motor, clearly states this on website.
Yes...I corrected it...my mistake...
 
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Old 01-26-2024, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
The following is the break down for the new M8 engine and models

2023- 2024 CVO Road Glide 121 VVT engine 139 TQ @ 3000, 115 HP @ 4500
2023 - 2024 CVO Street Glide 121 VVT engine 139 TQ @ 3000, 115 HP @ 4500
2024 CVO Road Glide ST 121 NO VVT engine 145 TQ @ 4000, 122HP @ 4900
2024 Road Glide and Street Glide 117 NO VVT engine 130 TQ @ 3250, 105HP @ 4600

There are three engines, 121 VVT, 121 No VVT and 117 No VVT
Steve...never mind, looks like you are correct...what was the purpose of going NON VVT on the ST HO motor? Just curious...

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Originally Posted by bradsULtd
Steve...looking at the HD website, all 3 CVO's (RG, SG, ST) have 121 ci motors and ARE VVT...
where are you reading that while "looking at the HD website"

below is what I copied and pasted from the HD website descriptions on those models

CVO Road Glide ST - ENGINE Milwaukee-EightŪ 121 High Output
MILWAUKEE-EIGHTŪ 121 HO V-TWIN ENGINE
The Milwaukee-Eight 121 High Output (HO) engine is tuned to produce more horsepower and torque than the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 engine with a high-performance camshaft, race-inspired high-performance air intake, and elevated 5,900 RPM redline.

CVO Road Glide - ENGINE Milwaukee-EightŪ VVT 121
MILWAUKEE-EIGHTŪ VVT 121 V-TWIN ENGINE
The highest displacement powertrain ever to be factory-installed on a Harley-Davidson Touring motorcycle, the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 engine features liquid-cooled cylinder heads, variable valve timing (VVT), and a new intake tract. The increased displacement produces more power and torque than the Milwaukee-Eight 117 engine, while VVT broadens the overall powerband and improves fuel economy.
 
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Originally Posted by mjwebb
where are you reading that while "looking at the HD website"

below is what I copied and pasted from the HD website descriptions on those models

CVO Road Glide ST - ENGINE Milwaukee-EightŪ 121 High Output
MILWAUKEE-EIGHTŪ 121 HO V-TWIN ENGINE
The Milwaukee-Eight 121 High Output (HO) engine is tuned to produce more horsepower and torque than the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 engine with a high-performance camshaft, race-inspired high-performance air intake, and elevated 5,900 RPM redline.

CVO Road Glide - ENGINE Milwaukee-EightŪ VVT 121
MILWAUKEE-EIGHTŪ VVT 121 V-TWIN ENGINE
The highest displacement powertrain ever to be factory-installed on a Harley-Davidson Touring motorcycle, the Milwaukee-Eight VVT 121 engine features liquid-cooled cylinder heads, variable valve timing (VVT), and a new intake tract. The increased displacement produces more power and torque than the Milwaukee-Eight 117 engine, while VVT broadens the overall powerband and improves fuel economy.
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