Well, I Just trade-in my 2014 Vision and my old 2009 Roadking for a New 2014 Harley Ultra LTD. The Vic Vision is a good bike overall, but never past the look. Before I made my decision, I went to the closed Indian dealership(around 50 miles away) and try to order a new Road Master or a 2014 Chieftain, but low ball on my trade-in, the special interest rates were for short time and no room on the price. The local HD dealership (just 7 miles away) took down fewbucks off the MSRP, low interest rates (2.9 for 72 moths) and good trade-in money, also give me extended warranty and free service for 2 years. I just could not resist a good deal and wife is happy cuz is just one motorcycle now!