Reading this, could a reasonable person also make the arguement that the damage occurred prior to installing the tuner?

Thus making it the fault of running "aftermarket ac and header" with no tuner?

 

Well, that word right there "prolly" what does that mean, did he burn a piston or not?

 

Now I see why there are so many problems with Harleys...

 

here we go!

 

No a reasonable person could not. The MOCO spent millions figuring it out. My friend was told not to do the ac and exhaust unless he was either going to do a download or a tuner. He road with neither for over 2k miles.

Every one can believe as they want. I believe in the moco when it comes to engineering and specs for the motors they designed, researched and developed. Not a small aftermarket company. I have yet to be swayed otherwise when it comes to the 14s

 

Who knows but it was lean as hell for 2k miles. Would you buy that bike if you knew those circumstances?

 

The reason my guess would be because a Harley is expensive to begin with, and most in this group will wait before doing mods.

 

jcapps, it appears you might have made SafetyMan's argument for him here. Your friend was told NOT to run it without either A) the dealer download or B) a tuner if he had the A/C and exhaust, but if I am reading this correctly, he DID run it that way for over 2K miles creating a much leaner condition that stock. That could very well have caused some damage prior to the tuner it seems to me.

 

Back on topic

Still stock. Just have slip-ons, stock catted head pipe and stock AC. Probably going to stay that way.

 

Point is he could have done the moco download and been done. But after 2k miles he bought a tuner (no names) and struggled with it for at least 500 miles and then all it did was fart, spit and decal pop till he sold the bike


No thanks I will stick with the dealer download.......................for now