2014-2023 Touring Models This Section Is For Rushmore/2014-2023 Touring Models
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

First home oil chage

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-13-2024, 11:06 PM
Black Ultra's Avatar
Black Ultra
Black Ultra is offline
Road Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Hudson, CO
Posts: 772
Received 597 Likes on 311 Posts
Default First home oil chage

Did an oil change at home today. First time. All the others have been at the dealership since they do them free. I bought an oil change kit from Amsoil, same as what I've had the dealer using. 5 qts and a filter with an O ring for the drain plug. Anyway, I followed the procedure in the book. Fill with 4 quarts, then do a cold check. If good, bring it up to full temp and do a hot check. Both were right on the money. So why does the kit come with 5 qts?? I'll do another cold check in the morning just to be sure, but seems odd.
 
  #2  
Old 09-14-2024, 02:22 AM
Shma's Avatar
Shma
Shma is offline
Advanced
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Missouri
Posts: 50
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Recently changed mine (2021 FLHTK) after getting the engine hot and let drain for 30 minutes. With a new filter I added 4 quarts and got the engine up to temp. After it cooled down I did a cold check and added 4 ounces and its now exactly where it should be according to the manual. Same result as with my previous bike which was a 2018 FLHTK but with the 107 M8. Seemed to always need an extra 4 to 5 ounces of the 5th quart.
 
  #3  
Old 09-14-2024, 04:19 AM
gonemad's Avatar
gonemad
gonemad is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: central NC
Posts: 6,353
Received 7,308 Likes on 2,939 Posts
Default

You can buy oil change kits from Harley with either four quarts or five.

Having owned three M-8’s since late 2020, and done the majority of the oil changes myself, I can safely say that it’s because Harley is still not sure how much oil an M-8 holds, or how far up the dipstick you should fill it so it doesn’t puke it into your breather, or which bikes are going to use one quart every 1500 miles, which according to them is within spec. I had one that used close to that.


 

Last edited by gonemad; 09-14-2024 at 04:32 AM.
  #4  
Old 09-14-2024, 04:52 AM
Red's Avatar
Red
Red is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Veteran: Army
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearwater, Fl
Posts: 2,219
Received 900 Likes on 501 Posts
Default

Put 8-10 more ounces in it and you'll be good to go. That's why 5 quarts.
 
  #5  
Old 09-14-2024, 04:53 AM
gonemad's Avatar
gonemad
gonemad is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: central NC
Posts: 6,353
Received 7,308 Likes on 2,939 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Red
Put 8-10 more ounces in it and you'll be good to go. That's why 5 quarts.
You forget to add /sarc,

because that will WAY overfill an M-8
 

Last edited by gonemad; 09-14-2024 at 04:54 AM.
  #6  
Old 09-14-2024, 06:15 AM
touchdown's Avatar
touchdown
touchdown is offline
Supporter

Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Lititz Pa
Posts: 4,455
Received 1,767 Likes on 1,003 Posts
Default

Just changed oil yesterday on my M8 114. Changed when it was hot as usual, drained for about 1/2 hour, removed the filter, replaced the filter, put the drain plug back in and added the same amount of Mobil 1 that I always do. 4 3/4 QTS. then I run it for a few miles and check it, sometimes it needs some sometimes not. Been doing this for years.


1 MAKE SURE YOU DRAIN ALL OF THE OIL OUT FIRST
2 Drain when hot and let it sit a few minutes to get it all out. Sometimes just rocking the bike will bring out.
 
The following 3 users liked this post by touchdown:
motorsickleMike (09-15-2024), Shma (09-14-2024), VortecCPI (09-14-2024)
  #7  
Old 09-14-2024, 06:54 AM
HD_noobie's Avatar
HD_noobie
HD_noobie is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Ohio
Posts: 789
Received 551 Likes on 290 Posts
Default

Amsoil has kits with both 4 and 5 quarts.
 
  #8  
Old 09-14-2024, 07:28 AM
foxtrapper's Avatar
foxtrapper
foxtrapper is online now
HDF Community Team
Veteran: National GuardVeteran: Navy
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 5,294
Received 1,645 Likes on 1,071 Posts
Default

@Black Ultra , if the dealership gives you free oil changes why are you doing it yourself?
 
The following users liked this post:
Ddieselsmoke (09-14-2024)
  #9  
Old 09-14-2024, 07:52 AM
VortecCPI's Avatar
VortecCPI
VortecCPI is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: CLT NC
Posts: 606
Received 298 Likes on 205 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by touchdown
1 MAKE SURE YOU DRAIN ALL OF THE OIL OUT FIRST
2 Drain when hot and let it sit a few minutes to get it all out. Sometimes just rocking the bike will bring out.
I change mine when very hot after a good long ride. I let it drain for a bit then I rock the bike to the right and hold it there for about a minute. Then I put it back left on the jiffy stand and a bunch more old oil comes pouring out. I then repeat this about an hour later and more old oil comes out. I often let it drain overnight.

I do the same with all my bikes and I always get more old oil when I rock the bike as mentioned above.
 
The following users liked this post:
touchdown (09-14-2024)
  #10  
Old 09-14-2024, 08:07 AM
Rounders's Avatar
Rounders
Rounders is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: backwoods
Posts: 12,953
Received 2,258 Likes on 1,789 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by VortecCPI
I change mine when very hot after a good long ride. I let it drain for a bit then I rock the bike to the right and hold it there for about a minute. Then I put it back left on the jiffy stand and a bunch more old oil comes pouring out. I then repeat this about an hour later and more old oil comes out. I often let it drain overnight.

I do the same with all my bikes and I always get more old oil when I rock the bike as mentioned above.
This seems like a lot of effort for a tiny amount of oil. On a FLH the oil plug is pointing down when one kickstand and is lowest spot. I will sometimes sit my bike up for tranny changes. But again small amount.

Unless you got bad oil, 2-3 ounces is literally less than 2-3% of your oil. 32x3.5 is 112 32x4 is 128


What is the price kit vs just buying a filter? I have reused orings many times, but you can also get them cheap on amazon for a pack people seem to like them. I run my bikes half quart low cold.
 


Quick Reply: First home oil chage



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.