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Old 02-15-2023, 12:01 PM
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So are you trading in the Heritage? Or adding a bike?
Your Heritage is Boss!
Looks like you are building up another great one!👍
 

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[QUOTE=Hulkss;21070872]Kinda odd that the big gauge is the tach.



Would love to add that big Tach to my 2019 RK!🤔
 
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Originally Posted by Hulkss
The FLHP has the same 13" shocks.

These shocks are actually a modern design that has a stiff spring and rebound damping only on one side (with the preload adjuster). The other side has a softer spring and compression damping only. Under dynamic conditions the damping forces tend to balance out the uneven spring forces. Having only one type of damping on each side improves damping performance when the shock reverses direction from compression to rebound.

The biggest issue with these stock shocks are because of the bikes "running" the 18" rear wheels and the loss of sidewall compared to the true blue 16" that the bike is engineered around, is too hard to accommodate.
These shocks ride amazing with the 16" wheel that IMO should be on back of all HDs.
Same goes for a front wheel without much sidewall.🤦‍♂️
 
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Originally Posted by Bayou FLHR-M8-128"
Sorry, will read whole.thread 1st🤦‍♂️
I traded the Heritage. I had to either keep it forever or move on before it gets too many miles for resale. My garage has four bikes in it now and I have no room to add more.

I probably ride a little harder than I should. I want to have the new Rider Safety Enhancements that work when cornering.

I also want dual front brakes, the single front brake is not quite enough and gets really hot. I've had to replace the front rotor twice.
 

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Originally Posted by Hulkss
I traded the Heritage. I had to either keep it forever or move on before it gets too many miles for resale. My garage has four bikes in it now and I have no room to add more.

I probably ride a little harder than I should. I want to have the new Rider Safety Enhancements that work when cornering.

I also want dual front brakes, the single front brake is not quite enough and gets really hot. I've had to replace the front rotor twice.
Awesome, as I myself went from the 2018 Softail Deluxe with bags and shield which is basically same as Heritage other than 1"shorter shock and shorter handlebars to the 2018 Roadking.
I am having a hard time being as comfortable as I was on the Deluxe in stock form. Thinking the taller ride height is my issue and will be swapping to the Legends 12" in hope of getting my natural feeling I got from the low slung Deluxe.
Too many years on the many hardtail shovels and pan I still have but are now basically models that starve for attention in my lazy old age.🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
I also have a 2008 Street Glide with the stock air ride but it has had the 3" lowering blocks since day 1, so she feels great but still not as natural as the Deluxe.
 
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Originally Posted by Bayou FLHR-M8-128"
The biggest issue with these stock shocks are because of the bikes "running" the 18" rear wheels and the loss of sidewall compared to the true blue 16" that the bike is engineered around, is too hard to accommodate.
These shocks ride amazing with the 16" wheel that IMO should be on back of all HDs.
Same goes for a front wheel without much sidewall.🤦‍♂️
Very true. The low profile tires on the RK Special are an example of how to make a bike ride harsh and be skittish on uneven surfaces or tar snakes.

Sidewall height on RK Special: Front: 3.1" Rear: 4.1"
Sidewall height on RK Police: Front 4.1" Rear: 4.6"

Taller more compliant sidewalls not only make a bike more comfortable to ride, they improve cornering grip with a larger contact patch, the ability to better conform to uneven road surfaces, and stay in contact with the road. Bias ply construction keeps the tires stiff enough for good agility, handling, and road feel.

The police model has the wheels/tires it does for good reason.
 

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Originally Posted by Bayou FLHR-M8-128"
[[i]QUOTE=Hulkss;21070872]Kinda odd that the big gauge is the tach.



Would love to add that big Tach to my 2019 RK!🤔
I'd like to see a little digital speedometer in the big analog tach and get rid of the separate speedometer. I prefer a minimum of interactive displays on a bike. I'm too tempted to look at them when riding and that is inviting disaster. I do use a smart phone navigation app called Scenic. The phone will be in a Quad Lock mount on the bars, but I ignore it as much as possible and rely on voice prompts in helmet speakers for navigation.
 
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Great choice Hulkss, congrats...
I will follow this thread, because if you improve this machine as well as your heritage it will be very interesting, I hope you won't miss the handling of the Heritage...
greetings from France...
 
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Originally Posted by Bayou FLHR-M8-128"
The biggest issue with these stock shocks are because of the bikes "running" the 18" rear wheels and the loss of sidewall compared to the true blue 16" that the bike is engineered around, is too hard to accommodate.
These shocks ride amazing with the 16" wheel that IMO should be on back of all HDs.
Same goes for a front wheel without much sidewall.🤦‍♂️
Agreed! Couldn't have said it much better. It's something I noticed immediately going from my 2012 UC to my current RGL. I would much rather have a 16" wheel with more sidewall on the rear. If anything, put the 18" on the Specials for "the look" and put 16's on the rest. The cops ride their bikes pretty hard...probably not by accident they stick with the 16's. And yes, same goes for the front. These are "touring" bikes after all.
 
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Originally Posted by Big Al 59
Great choice Hulkss, congrats...
I will follow this thread, because if you improve this machine as well as your heritage it will be very interesting, I hope you won't miss the handling of the Heritage...
greetings from France...
The Heritage does handle very well and I am concerned about the new bike in that regard. I had a 2004 FLHTP. It handled OK, but not like a new Heritage. With the coil-over-shock suspended seat, ride comfort (harshness) on the FLHP is not an issue.

There have been big improvements to the Touring chassis since 2004: in 2014 (Rushmore) and 2017 (M8). Also, motorcycle tires continue to improve. I currently favor Metzeler CruiseTec tires on the Heritage and will try those after I run off the H-D Dunlops, unless the bike is very well balanced with the Dunlops.

I define good handling as being balanced or neutral in a curve. After entering a curve, the bike should stay on line in the turn without perceptible rider input, neither falling in or standing up. Control input should only be required to change the cornering line or exit the curve. Transitioning into and out of curves should feel natural, the bike should just seem to go where you look.

The bike also has to make me feel safe and capable to handle the unexpected situations that happen. The rider safety/cornering enhancements should help with that.
 
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