Kill Switch
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Scott
Last edited by riderguy57; 11-19-2017 at 12:20 PM.
#54
In the owner's manual, many things are stated in careful ways to isolate Harley from lawsuits.
Somebody probably took his hand off the throttle to turn off the main switch, lost balance, dumped the bike and got hurt, sued Harley. Harley then went into the manual and instructed us to hit the kill switch first before taking hands off the bars, so as to protect them from further legal problems.
#55
Has nothing whatever to do with "voltage spikes" from turning off the main switch. This is product liability.
In the owner's manual, many things are stated in careful ways to isolate Harley from lawsuits.
Somebody probably took his hand off the throttle to turn off the main switch, lost balance, dumped the bike and got hurt, sued Harley. Harley then went into the manual and instructed us to hit the kill switch first before taking hands off the bars, so as to protect them from further legal problems.
In the owner's manual, many things are stated in careful ways to isolate Harley from lawsuits.
Somebody probably took his hand off the throttle to turn off the main switch, lost balance, dumped the bike and got hurt, sued Harley. Harley then went into the manual and instructed us to hit the kill switch first before taking hands off the bars, so as to protect them from further legal problems.
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Interesting idea. I'd like to know when it went from an emergency kill engine switch for accidents to the first step of a two step process to turn off an engine. It is the way things happen in the real world and I'm sure they lawyers said something like, "hey, it is no skin of my back, do it". In this light, it becomes similar to the kick stand kill switch concept, which really is, "the people who buy this bike are too stupid to ride it and will put the kick stand down and FORGET to turn off the motorcycle!"
Last edited by skid_pimp; 11-21-2017 at 11:41 AM.
#58
In the 70's, kill switches on boats became a big issue. Soon everyone was talking about the safety aspect of kill switches. ATVs, PWCs, and motorcycles. By 2002 most industries had some sort of kill switch plan. Only then, once everyone had them did companies start thinking about using them as a two step procedure to turn off your motorcycle. Until then, they were just an emergency shutdown, like most kill switches still remain. How many shut down their boat with the kill switch?
I don't care what you do, but as an emergency responder (retired) I know where to find the switch. If someone's bike does not start, the first thing we check is the kill switch. This is NOT ROCKET science.
Some got in the habit of using it because their ignition switch was not convenient. Many had the ignition switch on the headlight, by the neck, under the tank. Mostly as a cost saving measure, shorter wire, greater savings on building.
I could see the trainers thinking it was a good idea. If I was a trainer of new riders, I'd pass that on. If I was a motorcycle, ATV or boat company lawyer and the Feds made me add a kill switch, I would say use it to cover our corporate asses. It is just one of those things that finds its own life.
If you use it and are happy, so be it. If you do not use it and are happy, so be it. If you are unhappy, change. How many threads have we had on Kill Switches? It amazes me that this is an issue we need to dissect as if it matters.
Oh no, someone will post that you void the warranty on the M8's if you use your ignition switch to turn off your engine. Oh my goodness, do I turn on my ignition first, then the kill switch or do I turn on the kill switch first...oh no, my manual does not say. Must be slow at work and everyone is thinking about turkey.
I don't care what you do, but as an emergency responder (retired) I know where to find the switch. If someone's bike does not start, the first thing we check is the kill switch. This is NOT ROCKET science.
Some got in the habit of using it because their ignition switch was not convenient. Many had the ignition switch on the headlight, by the neck, under the tank. Mostly as a cost saving measure, shorter wire, greater savings on building.
I could see the trainers thinking it was a good idea. If I was a trainer of new riders, I'd pass that on. If I was a motorcycle, ATV or boat company lawyer and the Feds made me add a kill switch, I would say use it to cover our corporate asses. It is just one of those things that finds its own life.
If you use it and are happy, so be it. If you do not use it and are happy, so be it. If you are unhappy, change. How many threads have we had on Kill Switches? It amazes me that this is an issue we need to dissect as if it matters.
Oh no, someone will post that you void the warranty on the M8's if you use your ignition switch to turn off your engine. Oh my goodness, do I turn on my ignition first, then the kill switch or do I turn on the kill switch first...oh no, my manual does not say. Must be slow at work and everyone is thinking about turkey.