Stage 1 questions
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Stage 1 questions
I have a 2014 FLHTK with about 17,000 miles on it and now I have the need for more power and better throttle response. I would also like to get things to run a little cooler. My riding season here in Nebraska could be over for the year in about 60 days then improvement season starts.
To meet my need for better performance I have roughed out the following plan for the winter. I would like to add a Vance & Hines FP3 to the bike with the little riding time I have left. Once the snow is here I would install a Vance & Hines power dual head pipe and their High Output slip ons. On the intake side I would just use the Screaming Eagle High Flow intake kit since I like the look of the stock cover.
Does this line of thinking make any sense to those more experienced in doing these changes? It's a substantial amount of money and I don't mind spending it if I only have to do it once. I want to keep some options open if I want to do other improvements in the future such as cams or whatever. I do have a connection that can get me a good price on Vance & Hines products and I hear good things about them so that's why I'm leaning that way. Any advice would be appreciated.
To meet my need for better performance I have roughed out the following plan for the winter. I would like to add a Vance & Hines FP3 to the bike with the little riding time I have left. Once the snow is here I would install a Vance & Hines power dual head pipe and their High Output slip ons. On the intake side I would just use the Screaming Eagle High Flow intake kit since I like the look of the stock cover.
Does this line of thinking make any sense to those more experienced in doing these changes? It's a substantial amount of money and I don't mind spending it if I only have to do it once. I want to keep some options open if I want to do other improvements in the future such as cams or whatever. I do have a connection that can get me a good price on Vance & Hines products and I hear good things about them so that's why I'm leaning that way. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Slingshot383 (09-10-2017)
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I recommend you contact fuel moto, tell them what your after and ask for their recommendation. They are a manufacturing/engineering outfit and specialize in performance upgrades. I have their 2-1-2 header pipe, jackpot mufflers and power vision with target tune and my bike runs awsome and heat has been greatly diminished.
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/
https://www.fuelmotousa.com/
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My 14 SG was noticeably more responsive , it also has the HO motor with a little hotter cams.
The FP3 is decent if stage 1 or maybe even cams are all you plan on , I wish I would have spent $200 more on the pre-mapped Power Vision from Fuel Moto. I originally de-catted my head pipe , FP3 , and an S&S stealth air cleaner ( Uses the stock and many other covers , vary reasonable price on ebay) and immediately noticed the difference.
Since then I went to the Fuel Moto 2-1-2 head pipe with the ceramic coating , heat is reduced even more , throttle response is so much better and I still get 40mpg.
My dealer said he can now dyno tune with my FP3 also.
The FP3 is decent if stage 1 or maybe even cams are all you plan on , I wish I would have spent $200 more on the pre-mapped Power Vision from Fuel Moto. I originally de-catted my head pipe , FP3 , and an S&S stealth air cleaner ( Uses the stock and many other covers , vary reasonable price on ebay) and immediately noticed the difference.
Since then I went to the Fuel Moto 2-1-2 head pipe with the ceramic coating , heat is reduced even more , throttle response is so much better and I still get 40mpg.
My dealer said he can now dyno tune with my FP3 also.
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thefirstbigone (09-10-2017)
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How's the sound? I'm good with a louder deeper tone but I've spent enough on music upgrades and don't want to drown that out with an obnoxiously loud exhaust system.
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My 14 SG was noticeably more responsive , it also has the HO motor with a little hotter cams.
The FP3 is decent if stage 1 or maybe even cams are all you plan on , I wish I would have spent $200 more on the pre-mapped Power Vision from Fuel Moto. I originally de-catted my head pipe , FP3 , and an S&S stealth air cleaner ( Uses the stock and many other covers , vary reasonable price on ebay) and immediately noticed the difference.
Since then I went to the Fuel Moto 2-1-2 head pipe with the ceramic coating , heat is reduced even more , throttle response is so much better and I still get 40mpg.
My dealer said he can now dyno tune with my FP3 also.
The FP3 is decent if stage 1 or maybe even cams are all you plan on , I wish I would have spent $200 more on the pre-mapped Power Vision from Fuel Moto. I originally de-catted my head pipe , FP3 , and an S&S stealth air cleaner ( Uses the stock and many other covers , vary reasonable price on ebay) and immediately noticed the difference.
Since then I went to the Fuel Moto 2-1-2 head pipe with the ceramic coating , heat is reduced even more , throttle response is so much better and I still get 40mpg.
My dealer said he can now dyno tune with my FP3 also.
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thefirstbigone (09-10-2017)
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The PV has an auto -tune feature (add on ) that uses wide band O2 sensors that cover more RPM range than the OEM narrow band ones do. You can buy additional licenses for a PV so it could be used with 2 more bikes , FP3 is one and done. If you buy a PV from Fuel Moto they will give you free map support and additional warranty time.
Dyno tuning is more precise and will yield the best power gains for your individual set-up , even with the same components every motor can need a little different tweaking to get the most out of it , auto tune is cool and works to a certain extent but with only narrow band O2 sensors a good dyno tuner is going to pull more out of that motor. The key to a good dyno tune is the guy doing it.
Dyno tuning is more precise and will yield the best power gains for your individual set-up , even with the same components every motor can need a little different tweaking to get the most out of it , auto tune is cool and works to a certain extent but with only narrow band O2 sensors a good dyno tuner is going to pull more out of that motor. The key to a good dyno tune is the guy doing it.