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Old 06-17-2009, 06:42 AM
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Pretty sure about this. Harley makes 2 versions of the big twin, the 96 and the 96B. The 96B is used on the Heritage Soft Tail, for one, and is a balanced engine with an internal chain driven counter balancer. The 96B has an external oil tank. The 96 can be found on the RK, for one, and is rubber mounted, and has a wet sump.

And I agree the PC5 and Stage 1 air cleaner upgrade dropped my oil temperature as much as 20 degrees.
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Putting a Jagg Vertical 10 row oil cooler on my FLHT when I do the 10,000 Mile Service to it in the next week or so... even though have a PCIII and Stage 1 and running at acceptable temps 230-250 would rather see it a little cooler in this FL summer heat..
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To aid in checking the oil when hot I installed a Harley electronic dip stick. Just push a button and get the temperature and oil level. It works great.
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To aid in checking the oil when hot I installed a Harley electronic dip stick. Just push a button and get the temperature and oil level. It works great.
How long have you had it? I've read lots of posts saying they break.
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Bought the bike October 2008. Put it on first thing and haven't had any trouble. The only time you have to do anything but push the button is at time of oil change. Have 11,000 miles on the bike and just changed the oil for the 3rd time. No problems.
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but I've long been critical of the idea that when you buy a new Harley you have to spend another grand or two to get it to run properly and/or not overheat. I went through that when I bought my '05 Sportster and remain incensed with the entire Stage I nonsense that everyone seems to accept. A year or so after my Sporty adventure, when I wanted a long distance bike, I added a Yamaha FJR 1300 sport touring bike to the stable. As was expected, it was a gas and go bike, outperforms anything Harley makes, and I've done nothing to it beyond the usual service items.

This year I'm selling both and am shopping for a touring bike. I'd like to buy a Harley RK or EG, but see that the Stage I scam is still in play. I'm hoping in July HD announces a liquid-cooled tourer of some sort that doesn't require any additional fiddling, otherwise, I'll be looking at the competition. As I'll turn 69 later this year, this will probably be my last bike, and I have no more time to waste waiting on Harley to catch up with the competition.
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but I've long been critical of the idea that when you buy a new Harley you have to spend another grand or two to get it to run properly and/or not overheat. I went through that when I bought my '05 Sportster and remain incensed with the entire Stage I nonsense that everyone seems to accept. A year or so after my Sporty adventure, when I wanted a long distance bike, I added a Yamaha FJR 1300 sport touring bike to the stable. As was expected, it was a gas and go bike, outperforms anything Harley makes, and I've done nothing to it beyond the usual service items.

This year I'm selling both and am shopping for a touring bike. I'd like to buy a Harley RK or EG, but see that the Stage I scam is still in play. I'm hoping in July HD announces a liquid-cooled tourer of some sort that doesn't require any additional fiddling, otherwise, I'll be looking at the competition. As I'll turn 69 later this year, this will probably be my last bike, and I have no more time to waste waiting on Harley to catch up with the competition.
It's not a scam, harley like everyone else is bound by EPA bullshit rules. Sport bikes are also, but they are bred for speed, so you don't feel the need to add all that stuff, but believe me, plenty of the sportbike crowd spend money on power commanders, pipes, intake, blah, blah
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Pretty sure about this. Harley makes 2 versions of the big twin, the 96 and the 96B. The 96B is used on the Heritage Soft Tail, for one, and is a balanced engine with an internal chain driven counter balancer. The 96B has an external oil tank. The 96 can be found on the RK, for one, and is rubber mounted, and has a wet sump.

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The TC96 in all variations has a dry sump. The remote oil tank on a Dyna or touring model is the oil pan mounted underneath the transmission housing. This oil pan is separate from the engine casings (crankcase). Oil flows between them through passageways and hoses.

The remote oil tank is obvious on a softail chassis.
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Pretty sure about this. Harley makes 2 versions of the big twin, the 96 and the 96B. The 96B is used on the Heritage Soft Tail, for one, and is a balanced engine with an internal chain driven counter balancer. The 96B has an external oil tank. The 96 can be found on the RK, for one, and is rubber mounted, and has a wet sump.

And I agree the PC5 and Stage 1 air cleaner upgrade dropped my oil temperature as much as 20 degrees.

No. The 96(a) motor is also a dry sump motor. The difference is that the oil tank on the Softails is in a different location and is much more visible. But both are dry sump setups.
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Not trying to stir the pot here, but I've long been critical of the idea that when you buy a new Harley you have to spend another grand or two to get it to run properly and/or not overheat. I went through that when I bought my '05 Sportster and remain incensed with the entire Stage I nonsense that everyone seems to accept. A year or so after my Sporty adventure, when I wanted a long distance bike, I added a Yamaha FJR 1300 sport touring bike to the stable. As was expected, it was a gas and go bike, outperforms anything Harley makes, and I've done nothing to it beyond the usual service items.

This year I'm selling both and am shopping for a touring bike. I'd like to buy a Harley RK or EG, but see that the Stage I scam is still in play. I'm hoping in July HD announces a liquid-cooled tourer of some sort that doesn't require any additional fiddling, otherwise, I'll be looking at the competition. As I'll turn 69 later this year, this will probably be my last bike, and I have no more time to waste waiting on Harley to catch up with the competition.
I was curious how other air-cooled V-twins are faring. I did a Google search for "Yamaha XV1900A Midnight Star overheating" and most owners are commenting that their bike runs reasonably cool without any mods needed.
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