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Old 08-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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Mine will work in gear while the engine is running with clutch pulled at a dead stop in traffic. Simply reverse the throttle until the cruise light turns green. Cruise button must be engaged prior to this. I have noticed a real difference in engine shake and heat. Louisiana 99+ temps OUCH
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I actually got mine to shut off the rear today in traffic. A longer than normal red light, while sitting there, the Head Temp Sensor finally kicked in, injector shut down, bike shook a little more than normal, hit the throttle, injector kicks in. I can see where this may help with minimal fuel savings. When the injector shuts down, the rear jug acts like a air pump and cools the rear jug down. At launch, it will stumble just a tad.
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Mine will work in gear while the engine is running with clutch pulled at a dead stop in traffic. Simply reverse the throttle until the cruise light turns green. Cruise button must be engaged prior to this. I have noticed a real difference in engine shake and heat. Louisiana 99+ temps OUCH
Mine works like this as well except cruise doesnt have to be engaged.
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Is there any disadvantage to setting the rear cylinder to shut down at idle (08 and later touring models)?&nbsp\\; If no disadvantage, why wouldn't you do this routinely when riding in warmer weather?
No down side to setting and forgetting it. On some 08' models you can turn the system on and off at will....and on early build date 08's you need the reflash IIRC.

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I'm still trying to figure out how to shut it down in heavy traffic. I remember reading something on here, but I don't think it said how to do it.
To turn the system on you roll the throttle off and hold it for three seconds. The cruise light will flash green for on and red for off(it dont matter if your bike has cruise or not...that year range will have the cruise light in the speedo anyway.

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Have to set it when you start the bike.&nbsp\\; On 08 touring bikes (after a certain build date), you turn on the ignition, turn on the run switch, then roll the throttle away from you for about three seconds.&nbsp\\; The cruise control light comes on.&nbsp\\; Then you start the bike and it is programmed to shut down the rear cylinder at idle.&nbsp\\; Someone said it only does it when the engine is overly hot, but I thought it was everytime you come to an idle.&nbsp\\; I was just wondering if there was any disadvantage to setting it this way everytime I ride the bike in warm weather.
The bike does not have to be running to turn the system on or off. Just turn the key and kill switch both to run position. Roll off the throttle, and hold for 3 seconds.....then the cruise light will flash red=off/green=on. You can ride the bike with the system off, and then if you hit heavy traffic, while at a stop just turn it on via throttle roll off.

The rear cyl will shut down ONLY when several conditions are met....high engine temp, clutch in or in N, throttle no more than 2% open, bike at a stop. If any of these conditions change the systen turns off, and the rear cyl starts getting fuel again.

My bike came from the factory with the default setting of "on", and I just keep it that way.....at least for the Summer. I may turn it off come the winter though.

IIRC the realdeal low down on this system is on page 140 of the 08 tourong service manual.
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MY 08 is an early build. If I have it flashed will I be able to turn it off and on like later builds or will I will be set to on all the time?
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MY 08 is an early build. If I have it flashed will I be able to turn it off and on like later builds or will I will be set to on all the time?
I have an early 08. IF you have it flashed to ON by the dealer it will work and work well. I have had it come on a few times this summer in traffic. I also ride in the winter, down to 18 degrees is my record. At lower temps there is no reason for it to activate so its no issue. Believe me at 18 degrees I want heat LOL...........
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You enable the feature with the throttle but it is a programmed function and you do not directly control it. I have an 08 UC and last week in hot heavy traffic my rear was shutting off periodically. It is not like it turns off for a while. It actually cuts out only for a moment and then back on again. Sort of oscillates on and off. It causes the sound and feel of the motor to change while you sit in stifling traffic. Turns on without a hitch when you hit the gas or start rolling. The flash is for first-half 08's and all 07's. It uploads the software for the cutout. It is just one more function and worth doing if you don't have it but not in any way a big deal. Again, you dont turn off the cylinder with the throttle.
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once again. The rider cannot, at will, shut down the rear cylinder - the rider can only Enable the EITMS or disable it. (pre 12/07 08s and all 07s need a flash to enable and a flash to disable). for later 08s and 09s- the rider an enable or disable using the throttle. once enable, the ECM decides when to "shut down" the rear cylinder.

once enabled the following conditions will trigger the ecm to engage EITMS mode (some call it parade mode).

Head temp>287
below 1250 rpm (I think - have to look it up again)
neutral or clutch disengaged
below 2 mph

if above conditions are met for a specified period of time, the ecm will cut the fuel and spark to rear cylinder - it becomes an air pump. you may hear a change in engine tone, and rpms may drop slightly.

when any of the following conditions are met, spark and fuel are turned back on
head temp <275 (or something like that)
rpm above 1250
clutch engaged in gear
above 2mph

You can enable and disable, the ECM turns it on and off.
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My 08 bike is running great. The bike gets a little warmer than my old one but nothing like what some people have written about.
I live in the Northeast so I don't get that many real hot days.
I think I will just leave it alone. If I plan on running to a different part of the country where I will be in areas of prolonged high heat I'll get the flash.
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"Parade" mode is different for the touring models as compared to the Softail bikes. Both have to be flashed on to the bike, but the touring models have more control over the operation of EITM. For the Softails it is more of an off/on operation with no operator control.

That is if I am understanding things correctly.
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