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alright......i'm now hearing conflicting reports about the stage II. i just purchased one and i'm hearing from some people that the stage II is for bikes with heavy engine mods, i.e. cams, heads and the stage 1 is for pipe and air cleaner upgrade only. is there any truth to this? will i be able to run the stage II on my 08 sporty even though i don't have the engine mods mentioned? i'm thinking i should be fine but i need some closure from the motor heads on this site or anyone familiar with the ness products. i've sent them an email as well but haven't heard back from them. thanks everyone.
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“I have X'd myself from your world.” - Charles Manson
2008 Nightster-Many mods and many more to come
2004 Honda 400ex with way too many mods
2006 Polaris Scrambler 500 with light modifications (Wifey's)
Yes it is true, but you can run it anyways. As long as you tune the bike for it, it will be fine.
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2004 DS650X (Rotax)
800 Open Mod (Rotax)
617 Mach1 on NOS (Rotax)
1996 D3500 V10 425hp
1996 HD 1250 XLH "Custom" Stage 2 Heads, SE.497 Cams, SE Prog. Race Ignition.
Vet: US ARMY 78 - 81.......Patriot Guard Rider#45266
thanks freebird! you mean as long as i get the proper download for my pcIII to control the air/fuel mix i should be ok? i was looking out on powercommander.com for a download for it and couldn't find one. thanks again for your input. if anyone out there is running one of these, can you point me in the right direction for the proper download for my power commander?
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“I have X'd myself from your world.” - Charles Manson
2008 Nightster-Many mods and many more to come
2004 Honda 400ex with way too many mods
2006 Polaris Scrambler 500 with light modifications (Wifey's)
I think the best thing you could do is to take it and have it tuned on a Dyno somewhere to get it tuned in correctly for the stage II air cleaner. the downloads you get just gets you in the ball park and that's it.
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2008 XLC 1200
Rush 2" Slip on, Reach Solo Seat, Arlen Ness Big Sucker, PCIII, Progressive 412 STD 11.5"
I think the best thing you could do is to take it and have it tuned on a Dyno somewhere to get it tuned in correctly for the stage II air cleaner. the downloads you get just gets you in the ball park and that's it.
which i had thought about doing but the cost was driving me away. all in all, sounds like the bike won't be damaged by running it as long as i get the correct download at the very least, then save my pennies for a dyno tune. thanks guys!
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“I have X'd myself from your world.” - Charles Manson
2008 Nightster-Many mods and many more to come
2004 Honda 400ex with way too many mods
2006 Polaris Scrambler 500 with light modifications (Wifey's)
Thats what I'm running and as mentioned above, as long as you get the proper download you will be fine. I just took it to the dealer and had them do the download and my bike runs like a scalded dog. Even though I hated to take it into the dealer, it was worth it.
__________________ '08 XL1200N-PAID IN FULL, Ness Big Sucker w/X- Bones cover, V&H Short Shots w/download, custom made 2" tank lift, wire harness relocation, custom made headlight mount, rear signal relocation, coil and ignition relocation, clip-on bars w/diamond black grips.
Thats what I'm running and as mentioned above, as long as you get the proper download you will be fine. I just took it to the dealer and had them do the download and my bike runs like a scalded dog. Even though I hated to take it into the dealer, it was worth it.
perfect! thanks drum!
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“I have X'd myself from your world.” - Charles Manson
2008 Nightster-Many mods and many more to come
2004 Honda 400ex with way too many mods
2006 Polaris Scrambler 500 with light modifications (Wifey's)
alright......i'm now hearing conflicting reports about the stage II. i just purchased one and i'm hearing from some people that the stage II is for bikes with heavy engine mods, i.e. cams, heads and the stage 1 is for pipe and air cleaner upgrade only. is there any truth to this? will i be able to run the stage II on my 08 sporty even though i don't have the engine mods mentioned? i'm thinking i should be fine but i need some closure from the motor heads on this site or anyone familiar with the ness products. i've sent them an email as well but haven't heard back from them. thanks everyone.
thanx for askin this man, i was fixin to order a ness stage 2 for mine also but was wondering the same questions as you. saved me the post, let me know how you like it, im thinkin of ordering mine in the next couple weeks.
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You shouldn't need any differant download for a stage 2 air cleaner vs a stage 1 air cleaner, as your bike is totally unable to use the air flow that's avalible to you, hell I have one on my 96" RK and it's not big enough to use all the airfow that's available from a stage 2 air cleaner.
Ness SS Big Sucker stage II
And I wouldn't be surprised if the Stage II download would be really all that different from the BS Stage 1, on a typical Stage 1 bike.
'08 XL1200N-PAID IN FULL, Ness Big Sucker w/X- Bones cover, V&H Short Shots w/download, custom made 2" tank lift, wire harness relocation, custom made headlight mount, rear signal relocation, coil and ignition relocation, clip-on bars w/diamond black grips.
