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Would love some input on this decision. I currently have the opportunity to purchase either a 2000 Deuce for about $8,500, or a 2005 Deuce for $10,500. They both have about the same number of miles (between 8,000 and 10,000.)
I've been riding metrics for almost 40 years and this would be my first Harley. Could you give me your opinion on which direction you would go and why? They both are in standard configuration with few add-ons.
Thanks in advance for all your help!
If you're just going to buy it and ride it either bike will be fine. If you're going to upgrade the performance of the engine go with the 2000. The 2000 has a far better low end with forged flywheels and Timken tapered bearings on the Sprocket shaft. The later straight bearing low end is more than adequate, but the old 2000 will outlast it. The '05 models also had valve seal problems. Sorry but I don't see the E.F.I. as an improvement. Besides having a lot of parts to fail, they cost a lot to get set up properly, $400.00 for a tuner, $200.00 for a dyno tune, and if you decide to change to different pipes, go to a big bore or cam change it's back to the dyno. With the carb you can easily change jets and the needle for less than $10.00 and easily do it yourself. Carb problems are rare, and easily fixed. Read this forum you'll see that F.I. problems occur a little more often and it can be frustrating trying to find a competent tech to get it back on track. How do I know? I own both a carbed and an F.I. Harley.
If you don't need EFI (ride primarily at the same elevations) I would seriously consider the carb'd bike for less $$$. I never had any problems with my carbed Evo's when I lived at sea elevation. Trust me, you will be going to an EFI bike soon enough once the H-D bug bites.
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As people told you with the Deuce it's hard to find goodies. I was told you either like the rear fender or hate it. I don't do many mods on my bikes I just like to ride that said I say go EFI you will love it over a carb.
I think the Deuce is one nice ride and I wish HD still made it ( I guess they do it's called the rocker).
You will like either one good luck
Glen
05 Deuce
If you don't need EFI (ride primarily at the same elevations) I would seriously consider the carb'd bike for less $$$. I never had any problems with my carbed Evo's when I lived at sea elevation. Trust me, you will be going to an EFI bike soon enough once the H-D bug bites.
Well I live on the eastern slope of those Colorado Rockies, always have except when military service made me go elsewhere. My brothers both live in San Diego, so I have traveled over those mountains with carbureted bikes since the late 60's with no problem. The C.V on later model Harleys carb works by a needle mounted to a vacuum operated slide raising up to allow more fuel to pass through the main jet. That slide also controls how far throttle opens. Even if the butterfly is opened by the twist grip the vacuum controls the final opening of the slide. The result is that at higher altitudes, less vacuum is present, so the carb doesn't let in too much fuel for the thinner air. The altitude compensating advantage of F.I. over a carb is vastly over rated. If the E.P.A hadn't kept trying to lean out Harleys until they overheat and run poorly I seriously doubt Harley would have ever used fuel injection. I bought an '07 and had to get F.I. a couple of years ago but I still have my old '02 and '72 both of which I bought new, and rode over those mountains many many times. I wish my '07 had a carburetor.
I personally like EFI, but if it isn't something that you care about the 00 is 2k cheaper and I said earlier (and someone else said in great detail) the bottom end is stronger for performance mods.
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2003 Heritage Classic JD Cycles 95" Baisley heads Baisley roller rockers Baisley oil pump spring Woods TW6-H cam
10.5:1 compression TTS Master Tune Barnett clutch D&D Fatcat Zippers high flow AC
Uncorrected 110.45 HP & 114.19 TQ
SAE 104.49 HP & 108.03 TQ
If you're just going to buy it and ride it either bike will be fine. If you're going to upgrade the performance of the engine go with the 2000. The 2000 has a far better low end with forged flywheels and Timken tapered bearings on the Sprocket shaft. The later straight bearing low end is more than adequate, but the old 2000 will outlast it. The '05 models also had valve seal problems. Sorry but I don't see the E.F.I. as an improvement. Besides having a lot of parts to fail, they cost a lot to get set up properly, $400.00 for a tuner, $200.00 for a dyno tune, and if you decide to change to different pipes, go to a big bore or cam change it's back to the dyno. With the carb you can easily change jets and the needle for less than $10.00 and easily do it yourself. Carb problems are rare, and easily fixed. Read this forum you'll see that F.I. problems occur a little more often and it can be frustrating trying to find a competent tech to get it back on track. How do I know? I own both a carbed and an F.I. Harley.
Amen
If you want a solid bottom end and the simplicity and versatility of a carb, go with the 2000. If you want EFI and a newer bike, I would NOT go with the 05. As mentioned, they had some with valve seal problems and overall the heads did not flow well. An 06 would be a better choice or find an 07 and get the newer cam set up.
which every way you go, you're going to love it!
