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Bike is stock. The updated flash was covered under warranty.
I did have slipons on it and nightrider IEDs but I took them off during my troubleshooting of the problems I was having.....
When I took it in for service they claimed that the flash was just to correct the engine racing when hot which was apparently a known problem. They must've done the flash before roadtesting for the stalling and pinging issues because they said they couldn't replicate them. Obviously the flash fixed all 3 problems.
The flash worked great for me but I'm sure there are other things that can cause intermittent stalling.
Thanks for that. Before I read your post I talked to my dealer and was told there are no service bulletins on my bike. He searched by VIN.
He then said I needed a update flash that would probable fix the problem for $200 including 1/2 hour labor. I made an appointment but later realized why should I pay for what should be warranty repair? After your post I'm convinced they're screwing with me.
roofgunner: I will try your fix first, then call the next nearest dealer only 120 miles away. You're right, it's very annoying!
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The reason I want to try to fix the problem with my bike is that I want to learn from it. Previous posts mentioned the throttle position sensor. Anything is possible. I have faith in the guys at Worth H-D but you never really know. I fall back on experience. On my Nissan Sentra, which has 420,000 miles on it, it started this jerking at 65 mph after it had only 40 or 60 k onit. Intermittent and annoying. The dealership replaced the throttle postion sensor and they really were taking a stab at it. Well, it began doing it again. While working at Solano State Prison, as a c/o, I did alot of talking with the inmates, who were involved with the ASE auto program and of course they had alot of time on the hands. They tore stuff apart. Then I had one explain that really all a throttle position sensor was, was a reostat. When the contacts inside the reostat got worn (and these are cheaply made at least in the Nissan) there would be intermittent voltage changes. These changes would tell the computer that the throttle was closed which told the injector not to send fuel which caused the car jerking. AND the throttle position sensor is connected by connectors and what do connectors do?????? The fail, intermittently to connect due to moister, corrosion, ect. Then there can be bad grounds. So, this is why it is worth it to at least attempt to fix the problem by checking contacts, cleaning parts before you invest the money in buying a new part. Why buy a new part when the plug that you connected the part to, was fouled. You can think it's fixed. But later the plug gets a bad contact and the problem comes up again, and all that happens is you wallet gets drained. So we'll see what happens with my bike because in a couple of weeks I'm headed to PA. so see my dad and then to North Carolina and back to MO. Miles will tell.
I am riding over to the Tail of the Dragon and other areas nearby at the end of the month. So I was concerned enough to make an appointment with the dealer and went yesterday. They did their diagnostics, let it run for an hour (I didn't like that one) to get it hot and then three service guys including the service manager all test rode it. Of course it acted just fine, just as it had on the 100 mile trip up. They then did a stock download flash that was two versions updated from mine. This was all done as under warranty. It does run fine now but I'll have to put miles on it before I completely trust it. I'll let y'all know how it progresses. Oh, I took off the Xieds before heading to the dealer. If I have not problems, I'll replace them.
As of late, I took my bike on a PGR mission (about 170 miles round trip) after I cleaned the IC valve and throttle body area. The bike ran fine, and maybe a little smoother. In Oct., using my H-D chrome points, I'm going to put on the SE air cleaner, VH slip-ons or the SE and going to have them do the $150 down load. I'm going to tell them that while they have their computer stuff hooked up to check it and talk to the mech. But, before that, I'm making a run to PA and NC and back to MO. We'll see what happens and I'll report!!!!! Tom
After 1500 miles, 1200 in the last four days I can report no more rough idle and no flame outs. It seems the stock download with a later version has fixed my problems. It also runs much better under all conditions especially carving through the Smokey Mountains.
