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I think it's time for the non-smokers to start showing respect to the smokers... for a long time smokers have sat away and did everything reasonable to make em happy... it's now time for the non-smokers to grow up... [&:]
They're like the gun grabbers .... every little bit they get ... they want more ... pretty soon you have nothing. Now the food police are emboldened.
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At a bar/restaurant, it's not so much my individual cigarette that's the problem it's when you've got 20-30 of 'em burning at once...and some people when they drink smoke like chimneys...it fogs a place out.The smoking ban started as a proposal that was not forced on us by the state/federal govt. butthat was placed on a ballot and was voted in to law by the people (and pro-smoking business owners and smokers were out voted). I can still smoke whenever I want...just not inside a public/commercial building.
At a bar/restaurant, it's not so much my individual cigarette that's the problem it's when you've got 20-30 of 'em burning at once...and some people when they drink smoke like chimneys...it fogs a place out.The smoking ban started as a proposal that was not forced on us by the state/federal govt. butthat was placed on a ballot and was voted in to law by the people (and pro-smoking business owners and smokers were out voted). I can still smoke whenever I want...just not inside a public/commercial building.
Funny how no one is up and arms protecting minority rights. If I'm a business owner ... and I want to allow smoking ... that should be my right. Smoking is LEGAL. You don't like it ... don't patronize my business. You want to ban smoking in all public/goverment buildings with a vote ... I'll live with that. I own a bar or restaraunt or whatever ... that's private ... until smoking is ILLEGALthe goverment/voters can stay out of how I run my business.
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yep...whats next....tell ya, some of us will go off grid and totally underground...dont havta be a 1%'r to check out...off the radar and asta lavista baby, taxes and all....let em keep takin...our country was started bc of tax revolt...somethin to think about...i promise as a smoker i will not tread on you, please dont tread on me
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At a bar/restaurant, it's not so much my individual cigarette that's the problem it's when you've got 20-30 of 'em burning at once...and some people when they drink smoke like chimneys...it fogs a place out.The smoking ban started as a proposal that was not forced on us by the state/federal govt. butthat was placed on a ballot and was voted in to law by the people (and pro-smoking business owners and smokers were out voted). I can still smoke whenever I want...just not inside a public/commercial building.
Funny how no one is up and arms protecting minority rights. If I'm a business owner ... and I want to allow smoking ... that should be my right. Smoking is LEGAL. You don't like it ... don't patronize my business. You want to ban smoking in all public/goverment buildings with a vote ... I'll live with that. I own a bar or restaraunt or whatever ... that's private ... until smoking is ILLEGALthe goverment/voters can stay out of how I run my business.
They passed a no smoking ordinance here a while back and its a $500 fine for lighting up in a reaturant...If you run a red light/stop sign here and kill someone, the fine is $82...go figure
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Well as some of you know I am coming up on a year of non smoking. But, I do not agree that it should be banned. The only place it should be banned is where children are, as far as adults , they can make there on choices. I also don't agree with laws that make me wear a helmet, seatbelt, ETC. I know it is safer, but damn it,I am 44 years old and do not want nor need the government telling me what to do.
Here in CT there is already a ban in public places... I just heard that they are now going to try and make it illegal to smoke in any vehicle with a child in the vehicle.
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The friction between my legs almost set my underwear on fire!
Here in Michigan, the company I work for just started charging smokers and extra $100 a month for medical insurance, and that makes sense, why should I pay more for the medical bills of smokers, let them pay for it themselfs.I also don't think that the government should ban smoking anywhere. But I think that some places should cater to the non smokers of the world. I would love to go to a smoke free bar once in a while, and meet smoke free women. But I do not want the government to decide that for anyone. FYI, I just quit smoking about 5 months ago.
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