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Old 12-22-2005, 09:26 PM
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Yes, Ike fired him, because he was an ultra right wing embarrassment. HOWEVER, he was one of the best war fighting generals we have ever had. We need a lot more kick ass folks like him and a hell of a lot less whiners, wouldn't most of you say?

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I wonder how he would do in Iraq or Afghanistan?
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:30 AM
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if the politicians let him or several other generals we have had in the past, it would all be over.
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:14 AM
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If Patton were running the war - he wouldn't have given a flying F**K about popular opinion. He'd be ruthless, sneaky and ha'd unleash the FULL might of our military power on those bastards and worry about answering questions later.

At the end of the day - people can argue the politics of WHY we're in Afghanistan or Iraq - but once there are boots on the ground - all politics should go out the window and all anyone should be concerned about is WINNING THE DAMN WAR!!!!

My last 2 cents - we should have been in Afghanistan in 1993 - AFTER FIRST TIME THEY TRIED TO BRING DOWN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. These bastards didn't just wake up in 2001 and say "Hey - we hate the US - let's go fly some planes into their buildings". It's been going on a long time and even now - after the USS Cole, the Tanzania bombings, the Khobar towers, both attacks on the World Trade Center - a lot of people in this country are asleep at the wheel and have actually forgotten. Until next time.

Me? I say we stay on the offense and try like hell to make sure there ISN'T a next time.

Sorry to get political...I'm done and if I offended anyone, my apologies. Just stating the facts.

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Intersting to be taliking about Gen Patton. Attached is the Stars and Stripes European Edition for 22 Dec. Seems it was the 60th anniversary of his death:

60th anniversary of Patton’s death marked in Heidelberg
Army hospital where ‘Old Bood and Guts’ died holds ceremony

By Nancy Montgomery, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Thursday, December 22, 2005



Kelly Bridgwater / Courtesy of Europe Regional Medical Command
Helen Patton Plusczyk, granddaughter of Gen. George S. Patton Jr., stands next to the display case outside the radiology department at Heidelberg Army Hospital during the Gen. George S. Patton Jr. memorial ceremony Monday.


Kelly Bridgwater / Courtesy of Europe Regional Medical Command
Col. Anita H. McCowen, left, of the Army hospital in Heidelberg, Germany, directs Sgt. 1st Class Sheryl T. Bean, second from left, and Sgt. 1st Class Dorothee J. Smith as they decorate the Gen. Patton display case outside the radiology department of the hospital on Nachrichten Kaserne.


HEIDELBERG, Germany — A slender woman accessorized with a big, sparkly belt buckle and hipster eyeglasses passed around one of George S. Patton Jr.’s riding crops Wednesday at Heidelberg’s U.S. Army hospital after a ceremony commemorating the general’s death.

Helen Patton Plusczyk, Patton’s granddaughter, stood outside what is now the radiology department, but which 60 years ago Wednesday, was the room where “Old Blood and Guts” died from a pulmonary embolism following a car crash 12 days earlier.

She did an impersonation of the general demonstrating that his voice was high, nothing like George C. Scott’s, thanked the staff and helped lay a wreath outside the room.

But because this was the 60th anniversary of Patton’s death at the hospital, Plusczyk was joined by, among others, the top internist from Wm. Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Texas, who was so interested in Patton’s life and death that he reviewed his hospital medical records and now gives talks on the matter; and a United Service Organizations tour lead by an off-duty U.S. Army Europe historian. The tour group also visited the site of Patton’s funeral and scene of the accident between Patton’s sedan and an Army 2½-ton truck in Mann- heim, near Benjamin Franklin Village.

Patton’s place in history by the time he was brought to the hospital was assured: He was a military visionary who, among other accomplishments, led the Third Army through the most impressive advance of World War II.

But if he had not lain paralyzed for 12 days in Heidelberg’s hospital before he had died, he might have been remembered quite differently, said Col. Thomas Frank, chief of internal medicine at Wm. Beaumont.

During that time, Patton’s courage, canniness and bravado were recalled in newspaper stories as part of “a national upswelling of sympathy,” Frank said, quoting from a book about Patton during his talk on the hospital compound.

The general’s missteps, which on some occasions had resulted in his reassignment and had turned public opinion against him — slapping a shell-shocked soldier he regarded as a malingerer, criticizing Russian and other Allies, saying Nazis were like any other political party on the losing side — were forgotten, or at least were remembered less prominently.

Frank said modern medications could have prevented the pulmonary embolism — a blood clot that traveled to the lungs — that killed the war hero. But, Frank said, had Patton lived, he would have remained paralyzed.

Military police faulted both Patton’s driver and the soldier driving the truck for the collision. But Patton insisted that no charges be brought against either and that they not feel guilt over the accident.

“The long and short of it is, he probably went when he was supposed to go,” said his granddaughter, a 43-year-old actress who lives near Saarbrücken and is mar
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If Patton was running it, he would probably be already through with Iran.
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