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Thanks for the replies and support everyone, I havent wandered around enough to find the social thread yet, but do have my preferences set to recieve mail from members and admins both. Could someone please post a link to that thread for me? Or I can just post the email address in here either one. Thanks very much dlnp22 for the help too. I'll check back after while and if I still cant find it I'll just post my address on the thread here. Now I understand what it is about a Harley that causes those feelings that can't be described.