09 Ultra/EG touring seat getting worse

[BadX]

About three weeks ago we had a guy ride in from TN to have his 09 ultra seat worked on. When we started working on it we did so like we have done with the 08-09 seats. Well, big surprise when we got the foam cut away because there was two hollow spots in the sitting area of the seat. I thought maybe it was just a fluke and they had made, an air bubble which foam will do if not pour correctly. Well, last week we saw another one like this. That got me thinking that maybe someone up in the HD HQ is listening about the seats being too wide and this was their remedy to fix that issue. Then yesterday a guy calls the shop says he just bought a 09 Ultra, he hasn't ridden it but the seat is bad just sitting on the showroom floor and wanted to me to pick it up and work on it while he was getting pipes and other stuff put on. I felt the sides of the seat and they felt hollow like the two previous mentioned seats did. On my way out of the dealer a guy who Fatboy seat we worked on last year stopped and said he has a new ultra and he keeps sliding forward. He bought this bike two weeks ago. I felt that seat and you guessed it, hollow sides. This morning I decided I would take some pictures of a pre-09 seat (09 bike but sold before 09)and what the current 09 seats are looking like. Here is what I have found. This is a 09 that was sold before Jan 1, 09 This seat is a 09 that was purchased two days ago seat. The red lines point out indentions in the foam and the reason they are there is because the foam is hollow in this section. 09 Seat sold before Jan 1, 09 The two day old 09 seat. Holy crap. If I were HD I would put this picture on the wall saying 'HOW NOT TO MAKE A SEAT" I am almost to a loss of words when I see a seat such as this because I have to wonder WTF were they thinking? The center section of the seat is going to be a MAJOR pressure point because there isn't any foam in there to give support across the seat. Tall and heavier riders are going to slide forward because there the lack of foam isn't there to stop them from doing that, the seat actually has a slope forward in it. I have already figured out how to remedy this but honestly I should be a tweaker and not a rebuilder but we do what we gotta do. I honestly thought that HD couldn't do any worse on these seats. WRONG! Instead of getting better they are getting worse which is good for my business but I honestly don’t think poor quality like this should be getting sold on $20k motorcycles. Whoever they have designing their seats don’t know the difference between their head and their ass. Last picture is a 09 touring bike seat pan...next time I have a 08 seat pan I will take a picture of it so you will be able to see the difference in the two.

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[BadX]

Just a quick update on the 2010 seats, they are made just like the post 2009 seats and what we are doing to fix these seats is the double decker modification. We are filling in all the air pockets with foam using the first layer of memroy foam to level the sitting area back out and the second layer to build the seat height back up. This has been working really well on both the 09 and 10 model seats.

[Boggie Dog]

Hope this is the right place to ask this question.

I like what I read about how your doing seats. Sounds pretty much what I'm looking for.

I have an '03 Ultra Classic with the 100 Anniversity Emblem on the seat rise. Would like to keep that little touch. Can you guys maintain that emblems position while doing your magic on a seat?

[BadX]

Originally Posted by Boggie Dog

Hope this is the right place to ask this question.

I like what I read about how your doing seats. Sounds pretty much what I'm looking for.

I have an '03 Ultra Classic with the 100 Anniversity Emblem on the seat rise. Would like to keep that little touch. Can you guys maintain that emblems position while doing your magic on a seat?

Yes, We have worked on a lot of the annv seats and havent had any issues

[Boggie Dog]

Originally Posted by BadX

Yes, We have worked on a lot of the annv seats and havent had any issues

Thanks for the info.

May be a non-issue, I see a SE5 in my future!